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Re: MIDI & QC - Problem solved!!!!!!





No, thay are not. And anyway, one of them is a 88 keys master keybord, so I can't shift octaves on it, even if I'd want to.  

What happens is that the shift is not 2 octaves but only one (yesterday I was too tired to calculate correctly!). Middle C (C4) is 60.  this same  C is called C5 in QC.
This is not a bug. It's a difference in MIDI standard uses  which I knew, but never had to worry about before; so I forgot and had to find out again.

Bye




On Nov 20, 2005, at 9:45 PM, Alessandro Sabatelli wrote:

hmm.  that's not what i've found.  perhaps you're keyboard's octive is
shifted up by 2?

On 11/19/05, Antonio TARANTINO <email@hidden> wrote:
The problemÊ was the 2 octave shift due to the difference in the Note number
between QC and a standard (musical) keyboard controller (and, I believe, any
standard musical MIDI software).

When you play a C3 on a keyboard, well, QC actually output a C5! A bit
confusing.

Anyway, that's it.

ByeÊ





On Nov 19, 2005, at 8:58 PM, Antonio TARANTINO wrote:

Just found 30 seconds after I sent my last e-mail!!!

My fault!!!

I knew I could do silly things...

The output value is always 0 if the output is not connected to an
input!!!!!!!!!

This doesn't explain why it didn't work in the past days (when I was
checking a complete composition, so the output of the controller WAS
connected to something (which accepted the kind of value it was sending),
but anyway, testing a new composition today, with the explained procedure,
with some connection, well, it worked.


Thank you all.

Bye bye.




On Nov 19, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Antonio TARANTINO wrote:


After all kind of troubleshooting I could imagine, the result is always very
disappointing.

I checked with MIDI Monitor, but everything is working fine. The only thing
I learned is that QC thinks a C3 key has a 36 Note number, instead of 60
(which isÊ a C5), but this is common to other softwares and should only
affect the way notes are displayed. Anyway, I tried to use ALL the notesÊ on
all the available channels and for all the octaves: nothing.

Just to be clear, I followed your procedure, Michael:

cleaned up all physical devices, except one
checked it with MIDI Monitor
started QC
crated new composition
selected MIDI Notes controller
selectedÊ device
all channels were selected (gray)
played a C3 key
output of C3 note=0

played a C1 key (just in case)
output of C3 note=0

saved and closed composition

opened it again
tried again C3 key
output of C3 note=0
played all other notes
output of C3=0

Then I tried any combination and test that I could possibly imagine, I even
changed the controller (i.e. the keyboard), but the output of C3 note (and
of all the note output that I could test) in QC was alwaysÊdesperatelyÊ=0

I finally decided that QC didn't like my G5 and tried it on my iBook, but
guess what was the result?



Maybe QC doesn't receive from Firewire or USB MIDI Devices? Well, but then
why it "sees" them? (i.e. they appear in the "observed MIDI sources" menu)
And also, when I use a virtual midi device as a bridge, QC "sees" it as well
but doesn't react.


Now, I don'tÊbelieveÊit's a bug that only strikes in my flat, and I could
have done something really silly (oh, you'd be surprised...) but anyway it
should work just right out of the box: just opening QC, selecting the
controller, setting the device!

ÊI must admit that all this is very strange; maybe someÊvoodoo?

So please, if there is some QC+MIDI guru....

Bye bye






On Nov 18, 2005, at 10:59 AM, michael markert wrote:

At this point, you have to find out, where the error is.

Maybe you could load a nice free midi-tool: "Midi Monitor" (just google for
this).
Then you use Midi Monitor to check if something is coming in. Midi Monitor
also shows you the values of the incoming data (set the prefs to "HEX" or
"numbers").

Then (when you're absolutely sure that everything works as it should)
start(!) QC and create a blank composition. If you select "Midi Controller",
you shouldn't have to en/disable something at all except the source and the
Controller-Value.

If it still won't work then, save your composition with the source you want,
then restart QC, load that composition again.

If it still won't work, I don't know why :(



Maybe you could test another device.
Yesterday I had the issue that the MidiDevice on the PCI-Card just didn't
work! I switched to my USB-Device and everything went fine. But you'd notice
this kind of behavior when you're using Midi Monitor to check your
transmissions.


Good Luck!
Michael



Am 18.11.2005 um 01:35 schrieb Antonio TARANTINO:


Thank for the try, but didn't work neither.

As far as I underestand a MIDI pipe create a virtual midi outÊ (one more),
then QC has the same behaviour with it then it has with the others.

*%%´²(c)**!!Ê I'm stuck!

Anto.




maybe you could use something like midipipe to see if you could send midi to
qc.
just wondering how to help you debug.

On 11/16/05, Antonio TARANTINO <email@hidden> wrote:

Hmmm... well, I tried this, but it didn't work.
Anyway, phisical ports should be present (and they are) anyway. But they
don't work. Thanks anyway.

I can't believe I'm the only one having this kind of problem!

And concerning the channel: yes, I read about it, they are ok :
grey=selected ;Ê white=deselected.

Bye

P.S.

I hope I'm using the list correctly.



On Nov 16, 2005, at 7:09 PM, michael markert wrote:



I found that sometimes virtual ports are not recognized.
Try opening all your musical software (with creation of virtual ports)
first, then launch QC again Ð

(sorry, if this hint won't help; for me it has been too obvious and I
remember having clicked around for an hour untill I restarted everything and
then it worked...)


Also: I think the channels are all pre-selected; if you clicked on one of
them, you might have _disabled_ the channel. I remember it has been an issue
on this list some time ago...


regards,
Michael


Am 16.11.2005 um 14:08 schrieb Antonio TARANTINO:

Hi.
I'm not a developper, I am rather a musician, but It looks like Qc is the
ideal solution from my audio-video project. I sterted using it, but I'm
having trouble with the MIDI controlers.

TheyÊ output "0", i.e. they have no reaction.

I activated the MIDI device as "source".
I selected the channel (grey), and the octave (for MIDI note), I even tried
to select all the midi channels and play all the notes, use all the phisical
controller.
The hardware is ok, the computer receives correctly, everything work fine
with other application, but nothing happens in QC. And it's the same for all
the MIDI devices (I have a few).
Maybe a clue: in the inspector all the device are present, but some of them
with the generic name (i.e. "port 1" or "Midi port") and some other with
their specific name ("Bidule 1"). But none of them work. Is this relevant?


Am I missing something? Is there a known issue with MIDI controlers? Is
there a solution?

Thank you and please excuse my english.



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References: 
 >MIDI & QC (From: Antonio TARANTINO <email@hidden>)
 >Re: MIDI & QC (From: michael markert <email@hidden>)
 >Re: MIDI & QC (From: Antonio TARANTINO <email@hidden>)
 >Re: MIDI & QC - Problem solved!!!!!! (From: Antonio TARANTINO <email@hidden>)
 >Re: MIDI & QC - Problem solved!!!!!! (From: Antonio TARANTINO <email@hidden>)
 >Re: MIDI & QC - Problem solved!!!!!! (From: Alessandro Sabatelli <email@hidden>)



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