I, for one, don't mind this thread at all since it brings up a lot of development issues we all probably need to think about as application developers.
Stay whydontcha.
--Alex
"nathan.freitas" <email@hidden> wrote:
Elliote,
response inline...
Elliotte Harold wrote:
> Depends on how much you're using, and whether GPL compatible > replacements exist. In general, I find 3rd party libraries are vastly > overused in open source projects, and cause significant ease-of-use > problems for both developers and end users. Apache Commons is a > particular code smell. ROME
Right, because we all have time to rewrite XML parsers and HTTP code over and over again, not to mention complex media playback frameworks.
Elliotte Harold wrote:
> As is, your application isn't really free or open, even if that's the > intention. The mix and match licensing of the different libraries more > or less prevents anyone from building on it. :-(
Our application is free (it doesn't cost a dime!) and open (all the sour!
ce code
we have written is available under the GPL). We aren't trying to poison or diminish the GPL in any way. This project was developed by a *very* small and eager team looking to counteract the closed nature of most media tools available for the desktop today. We didn't want to reinvent the wheel, and so looked to build on great work already being done around the net. We also wanted to release our code in away that assured it and any derivatives would remain available as source.
I would love for GPL versions of the following to be built so we can stop linking to the Apache or otherwise-licensed libraries below: -ROME Syndication Library (ATOM, RSS, etc) http://rome.dev.java.net -JDOM XML Library http://jdom.org -Apache Commons HttpClient 3.0 http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ -HSQLDB high performance pure Java rdbms http://hsqldb.org/
If you can point me to existing projects or contribute any code in these areas,
we would be very grateful.
The line between the libraries we can access because what Apple or Microsoft choose to distribute with their OS vs. the Apache Commons "platform" that we chose to use libraries from is a very murky one. Its very ironic that its okay for us to use closed Quicktime calls or Windows Media Player even, but we can't link to an Apache licensed open-source library.
Thanks for your thoughts on contributions so far, be happy to see you over on the I/ON project site if you're interested in helping us become GPL pure. Let's take this thread off the list, as its a bit off topic for Quicktime for Java.
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http://openvision.tv
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