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Re: DVDC Pro HD on Windows?



Ben,

That's exactly what I'm looking for! I'm not familiar with Carbon, it's an encoding product? What editor are you working with on Windows? What's the workflow look like to bring a DVDCPRO HD encoded .mov into say Premiere, Avid, or some other editor running on Windows? Run through Rhozet Carbon first to repackage the .mov into what?

Thanks!

On May 28, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Ben Waggoner wrote:

Roger,

	Rhozet Carbon can definitely read DVCPROHD .mov files on
Windows.  I use it for that quite often, and it's been bulletproof for
me.  The new ProCoder 3.0 (built from the same sourcecode) might have
added that as well, but I haven't tried it for DVCPROHD yet.


Ben Waggoner Technical Evangelist, Core Media Processing Technologies Microsoft Corporation

Compression Blog: on10.net/blogs/benwagg/
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On May 27, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Brad Ford wrote:


On May 27, 2007, at 10:46 AM, email@hidden wrote:

My company produces an HD video library we make available in a
variety of formats. Currently we also offer the content in its raw
form, as a set of files taken from the P2 cards used by the
Panasonic cameras we shoot with. These files are in a relatively
unconvenient form for our internal workflow - many files linked
together in a (relatively) complex filesystem.

Using one of the several P2-capable video loggers we can repackage
this content (without recompression) into Quicktime .mov files,
readable with the Quicktime DVCPRO HD codec shipped as part of
Final Cut Pro.

My question is several fold:

1) Is this (or a compatible) codec available for Quicktime without
purchasing FCP?

No. Those codecs are owned and maintained by the Final Cut team. Though their packaging makes them usable by other applications, they are really part of that application.

That's what I figured...


2) Is this (or a compatible) codec available at all for Quicktime
for Windows?

No. Traditionally the "pro" codecs, that is the codecs for authoring have been mac only.

That's what I've seen...

3) Is a Quicktime .mov encoded with DVCPRO HD like this going to
be readable by any editor on Windows, or any other editor on OSX,
if Final Cut isn't installed (obviously not possible for Windows)?

Yes. There's nothing magic about the movies. They just need appropriate video decompressors in order to play back correctly.

Didn't mean to imply there's anything magic, just wondering if there *are* workflows on Windows (or with non-FCP owned Mac systems) that can ingest DVCPro HD-encoded Quicktime movies. You say "yes", but then go on to tell me no. I'm not looking for theoretical, I'm wondering if today such a workflow is practically achievable.

The point of my questions is whether offering our raw DVCPRO HD
content in a .mov wrapper is going to limit our customers to
having to own Final Cut Pro on OSX to read the source material?

Unless you release your own DVCProHD imdc/imco components, yes.

Again, I'm just wondering whether there is an x-platform, x-editor workflow possible using DVCPRO HD-encoded .mov files; not necessary for it to be an Apple-provided solution, but it's certainly not going to involve my company developing Quicktime codecs!

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