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Re: Scitech Digest, Vol 4, Issue 50



Have you tried Remote Desktop? I love it for any remote work on my Macs.

Jan Theron


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Theron Engineering Solutions
408 E. Birch Ave., #7
Flagstaff
AZ 86001 
USA
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On 3/13/07 9:08 PM, "email@hidden"
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>    1. Mac clusters in practice (Konrad Hinsen)
>    2. Re: Mac clusters in practice (W. R. Wing)
>    3. Re: Mac clusters in practice (Peter Klaver)
>    4. Re: Mac clusters in practice (Scott Hannahs)
>    5. Re: Mac clusters in practice (Andrew Keller)
>    6. Re: Mac clusters in practice (Konrad Hinsen)
>    7. Re: Mac clusters in practice (Konrad Hinsen)
>    8. Re: Mac clusters in practice (Konrad Hinsen)
>    9. Re: Mac clusters in practice (W. R. Wing)
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> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:52:45 +0100
> From: Konrad Hinsen <email@hidden>
> Subject: Mac clusters in practice
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> Following the very good experiences we have had with Macs as desktop
> machines for daily work (software development, data analysis, writing
> articles, paperwork), we recently bought a small cluster of five
> MacPros plus a Mac mini (with a fast external disk) as a server.
> While we are very happy with the performance of the machines, we also
> find them quite frustrating to use, to the point that I am seriously
> considering to scrap MacOS X and install Linux on that cluster. I
> would like to know if others have had similar experiences, or can
> perhaps propose solutions to the problems described below.
> 
> 1) Using GUI programs over the network
> 
> This is such a trivial thing in the Unix/X11 world that we didn't
> even think about it before buying the Macs. However, I haven't yet
> found a satisfactory solution that lets users log through an Internet
> connection (ssh) and run graphical programs on the Mac cluster.  I
> have tried the following:
> 
> - VNC: unusable on machines with French keyboards (I tried only the
> free version)
> 
> - DesktopTransporter: usable only as long as there is no more than
> one user per machine, and even then it's too much of a pain to use
> for daily work.
> 
> - Timbuktu Pro: unusable through our firewall, which blocks
> everything but ssh access.
> 
> 
> 2) Firewalls
> 
> It seems that the Mac world has not yet adapted to the severe
> security restrictions imposed by today's firewalls. We have only ssh
> access to the Mac cluster, with the option of using ssh tunnels for
> other protocols. However, almost everything in the Mac world seems to
> require additional ports: XGrid, Server Admin, Workgroup Manager, and
> Timbuktu Pro are the programs that I tried and couldn't get to work.
> If the machine/port combination were configurable, I could use ssh
> tunnels, but they aren't.
> 
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> Konrad.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:10:36 -0500
> From: "W. R. Wing" <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Mac clusters in practice
> To: Konrad Hinsen <email@hidden>
> Cc: Scitech Apple List <email@hidden>
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> At 12:52 PM +0100 3/13/07, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
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>> 
>> - Timbuktu Pro: unusable through our firewall, which blocks
>> everything but ssh access.
>> 
> 
> Timbuktu can be configured to make "secure" connections, in which
> case _all_ traffic is tunneled through SSH.  Works fine through our
> firewall.
> 
> Bill


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