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Re: Dual streams, archiving?



From: Ray <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Dual streams, archiving?
To: "Michael Wood, Cincinnati" <email@hidden>

On QT you will need to run an encoder for each stream. There have been
multiple posts on how to run more than one encoder on a single Mac.
Personally I like to run things on two Macs instead of one because I
like the redundancy. I would recommend you go grab a mini and use it
for the low band encoder. Split the signal to both boxes and give the
viewers two links. Or sniff the viewers bandwidth at time of connection
and send them to the high or low based on their connection speed.


Ray Harris

Ray, don't know about the archiving part, but we've been running 2 copies of QT Broadcaster encoding live audio at two different rates for almost two years now, without any problems. And this is in the same XServe as apache and QTSS. It has proven to be a very robust system. The same box also streams hundreds of on-demand streaming and HTTP movies for curriculum support. This is 24/7, 365 days/year, with close to 50 thousand hits at our college radio station.
http://video.conncoll.edu/wcni/wcni_live.html
If anyone needs directions, there is a link at the bottom of the page..
(by the way, we are moving our server tomorrow, so it will be down for about 4 hours)
Pash has written on this board how to do it with video.


QT Broadcaster for us is a very stable program, even when run in multiple instances, and it has never frozen or failed. You do have to watch your CPU utilization with all the above programs, of course. However, on a 933 MHz G4 with 1 gig of ram, here's how much 3 simultaneous copies of QTB use, on average:
32kbps AAC audio stream, mono from iMic, 32 KHz, best encoding: 12% CPU
64kbps AAC audio stream, stereo from iMic, 32 KHz, best encoding: 18% CPU
300kbps MPEG4 video from firewire input, 320x240, 10 fps, with 20 kbps AAC 16 KHz audio, mono (fine for dialogue): 27%
A Mac mini would do the above with no problem, and could even support more live encoding.


It would be overkill to have two computers, each one just encoding one audio stream, in my opinion. In one 24 hour test, we had 5 copies of QTB running, four encoding two different USB audio sources at two different data rates, and one encoding firewire video/audio. No problems.
However, I agree on the importance of redundancy. If we were doing mission-critical stuff (I can now totally rebuild our configuration on another computer in 60 minutes using NetRestore), I would set up two computers with the same QTB configurations on each one, and have one standing by to use if the first one fails.


I did notice one small problem with QT Broadcaster, after about 20 days the compressed audio starts to sound "cripsy". We then just quickly quit and reopen each instance. Have not had the time to track this down.
Also, Wirecast allows you to encode multiple different data rate streams (including video) without having to make multiple copies.


Cheers,
Frank Fulchiero
Digital Media Specialist
Connecticut College

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