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Re: Any ideas for site Chat systems?



I would recommend various open-source versions of IRC servers.

Ever since IRC was created, there have been a lot of different "forks"
of the base "ircd" daemon. it's a unix daemon written in C. You can
run it as standalone server or connect it to other servers to form
larger networks.

 I assume the web interface you refer to is for administering the
server ... as far as i know "ircd" is only configured via text config
files (fairly easy to grasp too).

As far as end-users go, yeah i've seen web-based clients for IRC, but
usually you've got a web application that proxies traffic between your
IRC server and the web-based client. I'm pretty sure Java Applets and
Flash apps abound.

If "ircd" is a contender, this should give you a decent overview of
its various popular "flavors" out there:

http://search.earthlink.net/search?q=ircd

I'm pretty sure the first one was the one that powered the original
IRC network, "efnet". The first major fork, I believe, was introduced
by the dudes from "undernet" (my favorite irc network), which added
many services and features to address various forms of abuse and
channel management. Then I think the next major fork of this code came
with "dalnet", which added silly services such as "nickserv" and
"chanserv", which i think are okay on small server/networks, but
rather pointless on highly-trafficked ones.

For my money I'd go with ircu, "undernet"'s implementation. They've
done a lot to bulletproof their infrastructure from those inferior
life forms that constantly abuse it.

ircd has a fairly proven track record of being able to handle heavy
loads, and it's free. If you go with Jabber, I'd advise against
free/open-source server implementations due to scalability issues
we've seen inside in our mid-size enterprise. Those issues went away
when we switched to the commercial reference implementation by the
guys who developed the protocol.

i hope this helps 8)

-chris

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:30:15 +0900, Gary Ross <email@hidden> wrote:
> 
> I'm looking to put chat on my website for my members to use. Does
> anyone have any experience with systems, good or bad?
> 
> It has the following requirements:
> 1. Not http (i.e. it is socket based with a streaming connection)
> 2. Has a built in web-interface or one that is available. (Java or
> Flash powered, I guess)
> 3. Reasonable price for about 100 clients (eg. $200 rather than $800!)
> 
> Possible solutions are:
> 1. http://www.moock.org/unity/
> This looks quite good, but I'm looking for other possibilities too.
> 
> 2. Other IRC servers
> Ideas?
> 
> 3. Jabber
> Has fantastic possibilities but I can't find any good web/flash clients
> to tap into its power. It's hard to even find a complete client that is
> non-web based.
> 
> 4. http://www.123flashchat.com/
> This looks promising too. Anyone have experience with it?
> 
> 5. Anything else!
> 
> Many thanks,
> Gary
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