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Re: So what is a good approach to learning WebObjects?



I am in a similar situation my self. I do not have the luxury of 
purchasing books (student Budget), but I have found apple's manuals to 
be very useful. The ones included with the package or available on the 
ADC website. They give a fairly detailed walk through for creating 
simple JAVA & Web  applications, as well as giving decent explanations  
for why you are doing specific things.

One important note: I have found you should download openbase8 ( 
http://www.openbase.com/beta/OpenBase8.0_MacOSX.dmg ) Openbase 7 
doesn't let you edit data.  You can of course also work with another 
database app.

I have been learning mostly by reading the documentation and by 
attempting to write the project to my requirements. I am not going to 
say that is the only way to learn WO, but it has been very effective 
for me.

Alex


On 15-Nov-03, at 11:10 PM, Alice Oaks wrote:

> I've been at this for a few weeks now but I feel like I'm going around 
> in
> circles, so I thought I should stop and ask for directions. :)
>
> I started out with Josh Marker's new book, but it's not really 
> intended for
> beginners.  That is, it gives copious detail on how to do things, but 
> it's
> not organized in a tutorial fashion (nor was it intended to be) so you 
> have
> to know what you're looking for.
>
> I then switched to Apple's Getting Started with WebObjects tutorial.  
> I got
> through the first part ok (the guest book) but got stuck on the Movie 
> app
> because you have to set it up with the Application Wizard which 
> doesn't seem
> to exist in Xcode.
>
> So I went and bought Ravi Mendis' book.  It reminds me a lot of some of
> those week-long intensive training courses I got sent to back when I 
> was
> working for a big company.  You can follow along and produce something 
> that
> works, but there's not enough information on *why* you are doing 
> things.
> You just type along, following the bouncing ball.  He also fades the 
> detail
> a bit too quickly;  some of the steps need more explanation than they 
> have.
>
> Ideally, I'd like a book that combines the organization of the Mendis 
> book
> with the explanatory detail of the Marker book.  Even better would be 
> one
> that is accurate (I've already run into one spot in the Mendis book 
> where
> I'm supposed to rebind a variable I can't find the instructions for
> creating); there's nothing more frustrating than not knowing if you 
> screwed
> up or the book is just wrong.
>
> Does such a book exist?  Is there some other Apple documentation I 
> should be
> reading?  Or am I on the wrong track altogether?
>
> My background looks like this:  lots of web development but using 
> scripting
> languages, so my thinking is still fairly procedural.  I'm very 
> comfortable
> with databases and SQL;  we currently use Oracle and Postgres 
> extensively.
> No Java experience but I was a C++ programmer once upon a time, so I 
> can
> read most Java code and understand what it's doing though I may need a 
> bit
> of study before I can write my own.
>
> A roadmap to finding the right information in the right order would be 
> much
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alice
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