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Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up

On Oct 28, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Bob Greschke wrote:

??? How will they select which program/server they want to connect to? They don't run anything on their Mac except start X11 and select a menu item which ssh'es them into another machine/account where the 'inventory system', or whatever, resides. Are we all talking about the same thing?

Just clicking on the X11 icon doesn't get them anywhere. It just starts X11 and now brings up an xterm which they have no use for, and in whose Applications menu I can no longer put commands like ssh -X -Y email@hidden -OR- xterm -geometry 80x50+100 +100 -rightbar -sb -bg "black" -fg "yellow" -cr "orange" -rv -fa Monaco -fs 13 -e ssh -Y email@hidden? How do I replace that functionality? It's gone or hiding somewhere. I'm not going to type all of that stuff every time I want to do something, and having a bunch of scripts/icons laying around to run each variation of the ssh command to get into different machines is pretty silly.

Why not put a bunch of these one-line scripts in a folder, give them all the same names as the menus you used to have, and stick that folder in the Dock? Now they can just select if from a stack, and X11 will launch automatically. Okay, now you have a bunch of files instead of a bunch of menu items, but the complexity is of the same order, and they can still just click something (now the folder in the Dock), select something (the item from the stack), and be in their program without ever seeing an ssh invocation. Call it silly if you like, but I don't see where the functionality's much different.

Seems like your complaint is that X11.app used to be able to act as a launcher and now it doesn't. So now you'll have to use the same launcher as the rest of the OS. Or find one of the dozens of other launchers that could do the trick for you. If you really hate that idea, seems like something could be whipped up in Applescript studio without too much trouble...

-Patrick

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References: 
 >X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: Robert Tillyard <email@hidden>)
 >Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: "Chris Linstid" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: Martin Costabel <email@hidden>)
 >Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: Ben Byer <email@hidden>)
 >Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: "B. Ludvigsen" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: Martin Costabel <email@hidden>)
 >Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: Bob Greschke <email@hidden>)
 >Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: "Mark J. Reed" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: Bob Greschke <email@hidden>)
 >Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: Peter O'Gorman <email@hidden>)
 >Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up (From: Bob Greschke <email@hidden>)



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