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Re: Setting up searches in Xcode



The people on the Xcode-Users list are programmers.

So? As someone who has been writing Mac software for probably 15 years and doing it for a living for over 10, I think I can describe myself as a programmer.

Maybe we underestimate here, the mass of work needed to make a complete IDE for all the technologies available in OSX.


xCode , Interface builder, WebObjects, Sharks & performance analysis application, Posix, Cocoa, Carbon, Java, C, C++, ObjC, ObjC++

I find it unfortunate that Mac OS X development seems to be targeted at experienced programmers and I wonder to what extent it discourages people who would like to try their hand at Mac programming if they need to have power user skills plus know some Unix, *and* the Mac Toolbox/Cocoa (together with their diverse and often inadequate sources of documentation).

Larry

I understand very well your point, but maybe for this kind of users, there are other programming tools to use, I agree that Xcode is not for them, too complicated, too many doc to read... But you get access to everything OSX has to offer.


In the meantime, I remember that the work it needed for me to get a mac application running with the basic, back in 1988 with the MacToolbox & LightspeedC was very big, a lot more than today :

1/ Launch Xcode
2/ Create a Cocoa application
3/ Open the nib file
4/ In InterfaceBuilder make up the UI
5/ Create an application controller with only the method you need to fill the UI with the desired data
6/ connect ui objects to the right target/action
7/ if you need a custom graphic area, subclass NSView in IB, generate the corresponding files , and implement drawRect/mouseDown messages, use NSBezierPath to make the drawing.


The present developer documentation is very very good from my Point of view, sincerely, and the Inside Macintosh serie was not as good I think, very hard to read.

The true problem when using Xcode/Cocoa is the object programming concept, MVC and consort. the magic of target/action, the first responder chain, the Text system, the KeyValueCoding/binding machinery....

But I think that for basic things, you can do a lot with Xcode/Cocoa/ IB in a very simple manner.

Using Quicktime today is a lot more easy than before (I made Quicktime Coding in 1998/99 and it was a very hard/serious task...)

If you want to do 3D work think about Quartz Composer

Best regards

   Gerard

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