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Re: Setting up searches in Xcode (Re: Xcode + Leopard at WWDC this year)

Steve Checkoway wrote:

On Jul 24, 2006, at 1:52 PM, Mark Munz wrote: 
IDEs are supposed to make a developer's job easier. I've had my share
of makefile-base projects in the past and they are a pain.  I'm sure
there are others that disagree, but then why bother with the Mac at
all if you want to stay with a command line.

I don't understand all of this aggression toward a command line. 

http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html

His theory is that Mac users hate the commandline because they were proud to be the first consumer GUI when PCs had DOS, and later the only true GUI, to the point where the original Macs Snow Crashed, while PCs (even when running Windows, I think) "went cryllic".

They hate anything to remind them that underneath all the fancy graphics, there not only is a commandline, but it's essential. It's like auto vs manual transmission... or a steering wheel vs a joystick.

tool to use. If you know what you're doing, it can make you life far simpler than you could otherwise imagine. Why bother with a Mac? Because 

Seconded.

I never get people to move over to the commandline, but I've only met one person who continues to believe that the mouse is faster. But he hasn't seen my better one-liners.

I'm tempted to run a test, also -- see who can get Firefox working faster, the guy on Windows, or me on a Debian-based distro. Couldn't be Ubuntu, of course, that'd be no fair -- Firefox out of the box. But really, I dare you to come up with something better than:

apt-get install firefox

I love my Macs. What does this have to do with a command line? You make it sound like there's this evil group of die-hard UNIX guys making your life miserable.

And from the other side, there is sometimes the temptation to think that there's a group of die-hard Apple UI specialists bent on making my life miserable. No, we want pageup to move the scrollbar of the terminal window! Thank God it's configurable...

I love my Mac hardware. This thing is the most rugged, durable computer I've ever owned, including several desktops. Dropped on multiple occasions, dented, hammered back into place, I put DVDs our PlayStation 2 won't even touch into this drive and rip a usable image with Disk Utility...

And never a peep from the hardware that something's wrong, except when I insert a REALLY bad disc.

If you want to say that Xcode shouldn't require the use of the command line. I agree. File bugs and it might be fixed.

... And I hate much of my Mac software. I feel like Frodo. My quest walks on the blade of a knife, stray but a little and the feature isn't implemented, won't ever be implemented, and is clumsy or impossible to do with third-party software.

I'm not talking about Xcode. I'm talking about, among other things, Terminal.app.

But I'd rather file a bug than whine endlessly on a mailing list.

And before you flame, I say this as I prepare to whine endlessly about it on a blog.
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