RE: [Fed-Talk] Someday is here UNCLASSIFIED (UNCLASSIFIED)
RE: [Fed-Talk] Someday is here UNCLASSIFIED (UNCLASSIFIED)
- Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] Someday is here UNCLASSIFIED (UNCLASSIFIED)
- From: "Nees-Contractor, Al" <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:14:18 -0400
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Someday is here UNCLASSIFIED (UNCLASSIFIED)
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With all due respect to the team that has been working on the Mac AGM,
For months now there has been the preverbal "AGM carrot" dangled out there just out of our reach. We have been told that it is
"Coming soon" "By the end of April", well guess what? Next week is the end of April, and we appear to be no closer to an initial AGM
release for the MAC.
As everyone can read in many of the posts, the frustration of the Fed community is at a high level. So I believe that it is time to
"Get off the pot" and release the AGM Version 1.0 to Fed community. Nobody is expecting perfection, on the first release, but
something is better than nothing.
L. Alan Nees
Engineering (IT) LAB Manager
NCI Information Systems, Inc
Supporting PEO STRI
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Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Someday is here UNCLASSIFIED (UNCLASSIFIED)
The AGM build will include Thursby's AFC. AFC gives you single sign on with
the CAC so you don't need a password. When you log in, you will have
Kerberos credentials. It also handles some other things related to securing
login using a CAC.
Paul Nelson
Thursby Software Systems, Inc.
> From: "Peralta, Rex J Mr CIV USA IMCOM" <email@hidden>
> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:35:44 -0600
> To: "Putnam, J. Keith (AMRDEC/MRC)" <email@hidden>, "William G.
> Cerniuk" <email@hidden>, <email@hidden>
> Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] Someday is here UNCLASSIFIED (UNCLASSIFIED)
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> I would also like to add that the AGM build has CAC usage as a requirement
> and that here at Fort Carson we are including CAC-enabled Macs as part of
> our DIACAP accreditation.
>
> Rex Peralta
> IT Project Manager
> Plans, Architecture, Service and Operations Branch
> Directorate of Information Management
> Fort Carson
> US Army
> http://www.carson.army.mil/doim
> COMM: 719-526-0198
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:fed-talk-bounces+rex.peralta=email@hidden] On Behalf
> Of J. Keith Putnam
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:26 AM
> To: William G. Cerniuk; email@hidden
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> I have no involvement in the security process, but I believe that it goes
> like this:
> We are bound to the DIACAP process.
> Said process requires documentation that all systems in the DIACAP be
> accredited.
> Mac OS does not integrate with CAC authentication to AD, the automated
> software updates, virus updates, etc. that are involved in the accreditation
> package that is being built here.
> The CIO\IAM that is responsible for the DIACAP I am on hasn't the resources
> to invest in non-MS OSes. There is a working group for Unix variants, but,
> to my knowledge they haven't developed a satisfactory path.
> The CIO\IAM maintains that any accreditations outside his bundle must be
> funded by the using contract.
> We can't afford to fund accreditations.
> I am not allowed to ask questions of the CIO\IAM, or his subordinates.
>
> "Security through diversity" is a nice thought. The accreditation process
> seems to squeeze the life out of diversity.
>
> It seems to me that people who expect to benefit from AGM must have waivers
> from the imminent accreditation and DIACAP requirement. I have been told we
> must be accredited and documented by early summer, June, I think, or we will
> not have access to the Army network.
>
> As an aside; when the CAC requirement deadline came, non-Windows users were
> allowed to keep using passwords and told that the IA people would help us
> get to compliance.
>
> On 4/23/08 8:52 PM, "William G. Cerniuk" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Ironically www.army.mil is all Mac... on Mac OS X. It was chosen for
>> its security and performance.
>>
>> And the AGM for Mac is right around the corner, I am part of the team
>> as is several others on this list.
>>
>> Riddle me this, is there written and signed policy that indicates you
>> cannot run Mac OS X? The Army's stated policy is "security through
>> diversity" if I recall, LTG Boutelle, Army CIO (previous) a Mac user.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Wm. Cerniuk
>> E2E Project Manager, Innovation Program Chief Health Informatics
>> Office VHA Office of Information
>> 703.594.7616
>>
>> Time is Short, and the Water Rises
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 2:12 PM, J. Keith Putnam wrote:
>>
>>>
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>>> Not to whine, I assume some of you will be interested in this.
>>>
>>> Due to the lack of accreditation path for the Mac OS, my Mac Pro is
>>> being converted.
>>>
>>> I now have a Windows XP drive, sans BootCamp, set up for CAC
>>> authentication.
>>> Most of my Windows apps are installed. Once I get my Mac files
>>> transferred, I will be required to remove my Mac drives and go 100%
>>> XP. I will have one of the best Windows machines around. No joy implied.
>>>
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>>> --
>>> Keith Putnam
>>> Stanley Associates
>>> Software Engineering Directorate
>>> Redstone Arsenal
>>> 256-876-0363
>>>
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