RE: [Fed-Talk] Imessage
RE: [Fed-Talk] Imessage
- Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] Imessage
- From: "Miller, Timothy J." <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:14:44 -0400
- Acceptlanguage: en-US
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Imessage
Ah, but Newton wasn't a phone, so smart as it was it's a different category. :)
I still have 2 MP2100s and an eMate 300 that I'll sell for the right offer. It's still a better *pen-based* OS than anything extant today.
-- T
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joel Esler [mailto:email@hidden]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:55 AM
>To: Miller, Timothy J.
>Cc: 'Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)'; Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC; Reese, Brian J
>Mr CTR DoD DMA; email@hidden
>Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Imessage
>
>Newton was the start.
>
>IMO.
>
>
>On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Miller, Timothy J. wrote:
>
>> Credit where credit's due means you have to give the smartphone credit to
>IBM. :)
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Simon
>>
>> Apple doesn't do much technological innovation. They excel in design and
>integration. Steve closed up the research operations in 1997.
>>
>> -- T
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: fed-talk-bounces+tmiller=email@hidden [mailto:fed-
>talk-
>>> bounces+tmiller=email@hidden] On Behalf Of Pike, Michael
>>> (IHS/HQ)
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:25 AM
>>> To: Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC
>>> Cc: Reese, Brian J Mr CTR DoD DMA; email@hidden
>>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Imessage
>>>
>>> The truth is, whether or not you love Apple or hate them, credit for where
>>> ALL smartphones are today is because of Apple.
>>>
>>> Before the original iPhone all of them sucked.
>>>
>>> Even for years after the original iPhone they sucked, HTC was claiming
>touch
>>> screens when it was a piece of plastic that wouldn't work.
>>>
>>> It's only in the last year or so that Android has caught up to iOS, but even
>with
>>> that, iOS is much more refined... everything just works. Music fades out
>on
>>> phone calls, if you get a get a text while listening to music it gracefully lets
>>> you know...
>>>
>>> Android is a train wreck for a lot of the "just nice features".
>>>
>>> It's like a Kia or a Hyundai.. they get the job done, but Mercedes will get
>the
>>> job done and make it exceptional.
>>>
>>> I purposely didn't use the BMW analogy Steve used to use because I hate
>>> BMW :)
>>>
>>> Porsche and Mercedes for me :)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I thought of the early adapter issue as I noticed that Itunes is already
>>> offering Icloud features but they're not officially supported by Apple yet.
>So
>>> I'm reticent to try it yet.
>>>>
>>>> I just wish they'd come out with the new phone already and I hope it is
>>> significantly special. But maybe it's like dreaming you'll have another
>>> experience like first love. Nothing will match the first Iphone debut,
>>> whether you stick an "I" in front of it or not. :o)
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:10
>>>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Imessage
>>>> To: "Reese, Brian J Mr CTR DoD DMA" <email@hidden>
>>>> Cc: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden>, "fed-
>>> email@hidden" <email@hidden>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully this is a feature that can be disabled. The reason
>>>>> being is with picture and video messaging data can add up, whereas
>>>>> if you are using SMS/MMS the data used to transmit multimedia
>>>>> material does not count against your data cap.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd prefer the standard SMS/MMS that I currently have, as the plan
>>>>> includes unlimited mobile to mobile minutes on any carrier with
>>>>> ATT, so it provides a little bit more benefit than just the
>>>>> messaging aspect. And MMS does not count against my data... i
>>>>> tether a lot so any data not sent unnecessarily is crucial for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Reese, Brian J Mr CTR DoD DMA wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My understanding of how iMessage will work is that it will
>>>>> somehow check if
>>>>>> the recipient is on an iOS device. If they aren't, it will send
>>>>> a normal
>>>>>> SMS/MMS message and normal carrier charges will apply. If they
>>>>> are on an iOS
>>>>>> 5 device, it will just send it over the data network so it will
>>>>> count just
>>>>>> the same as any other data. It probably works similar to the
>>>>> FaceTime check.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It will be a great feature since I think SMS is old, overpriced
>>>>> technology> that needs to die. All it does is serve to pad the
>>>>> carriers profits. I have
>>>>>> a feeling they aren't happy about it. It would be great if
>>>>> iMessage could
>>>>>> somehow work on other platforms, but I doubt it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/15/11 11:48 AM, "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC"
>>>>>> < wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I'm reading over the iOS5 stuff on apple.com and don't see any fine
>>> print
>>>>>>> in the iMessage material that carrier texting charges apply. Is that an
>>>>>>> oversight or do they somehow not apply?
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