RE: Spectrolino repair
RE: Spectrolino repair
- Subject: RE: Spectrolino repair
- From: Roger Breton <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 21:57:39 -0500
Thank's Ethan,
I have two Spectroscan here, one I got re-calibrated by X-Rite just before they finish servicing them. The other was a unit that must have collected dust for years before falling on my lap. As you mentioned, they are remarkably stable, this second unit was no exception to the rule. I have a set of calibrated BCRA tiles over here and I was shocked to find this second unit within a fraction of deltaE to my recalibrated one.
Thank you SO MUCH for taking the time to spell out the details of your quality control program.
Too bad these machines will never have M1 support :(
/ Roger
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From: colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=email@hidden [mailto:colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=email@hidden] On Behalf Of Ethan Hansen
Sent: 7 février 2016 20:15
To: 'Keyway' <email@hidden>; email@hidden
Subject: RE: Spectrolino repair
Peter,
I can't speak as to what Steve and co. do at Chromix, but we (Dry Creek Photo) still use Spectroscans for certain profiles. The only currently available automated instrument offering comparable accuracy and flexibility is the Barbieri Spectro LFP. While the Barbieri is a beautiful instrument, it is on the costly side. Replacing our server racks of Spectroscans with Barbieri kit isn't cost effective for us.
We track each Spectrolino's reflectance performance using trend measurements against a set of ceramic color standards. Each instrument is measured weekly. We typically see minimal (within repeatability Delta-E tolerances) shifts for at least a year at a time.
The normal failure signature for a Spectrolino is the lamp output dimming. This is seen in measurements by darker colors having lower than actual L* values. Once the lamp starts dimming, the Spectrolino is on borrowed time. Fairly frequent re-calibrations are required - figure on getting 50 to 100 measurements of ~2K patches between cal cycles.
We do our own in-house calibration using a larger ceramic standard set and hacking of a diagnostic utility (Windows only) GMB sent us 15 or so years ago to determine the calibration data format. Unfortunately we have not figured out how to make this an easy process - at least a day of tech time per calibration. We also haven't found a source for replacement lamps. We cannibalize a stockpile of instruments to keep the current ones running.
The calibration tiles themselves are remarkably stable. We sent 5 or 6 to a ceramic standard vendor for measurement twice. Neither time had they shifted from the original values. The only time we have seen the cal tiles shift is from external abuse.
As a final data point, we have measured two Spectrolino units that were kept in storage for prolonged times. One for three years, the other for almost five. There was no (within tolerances of our setup) shift in measurement output over the timespan. For those using their Spectroscans on an occasional basis this is the key point. I'm sitting in an airport rather than at the office so I don't have precise numbers handy, however I'd swag the reflectance measurement life of a Spectrolino in the neighborhood of 500 measurements of a 2K patch target before recalibration is necessary.
We did, however, find that Spectrolino units are sensitive to jarring and shaking. Yours truly killed one with an errant coffee cup. Two others died when being attached or detached from the Spectroscan. Baby them, clean out the measurement head of dust, clean the cal tile carefully, and you should get quite a few measurements without needing calibration.
There might be a simple-stupid way to check the most common cause of failure - lamp aging. If there is a widely available dark standard with good repeatability (ColorChecker Passport?) a comparison of measured L* values would be a good indication of whether a particular Spectrolino was in reasonably well calibrated condition. If anyone has good ideas for this, I'd be happy to provide baseline data.
Cheers,
Ethan
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Ethan Hansen
Director
Dry Creek Photo
> Roger,
>
> That is a good question. I sent it in and had it recalibrate when it
> was still Gretag, but I never saw a difference before or after, and
> it’s still making some of the best profiles I’ve every seen. What are
> places like Dry Creek and Chromix doing, as I think they’re still
> using Spectroscans for at least some of their work. The real question
> is how often do that actually need to be recalibrated? How much do
> that actually drift? I don’t know the answers to that, but I’m not
> going to worry about it as these days I’m probably doing a dozen profiles a year.
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