Re: [Fed-Talk] RE: FOSE 2005
Re: [Fed-Talk] RE: FOSE 2005
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] RE: FOSE 2005
- From: Michael Pike <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:59:43 -0600
Definitely - anything I can do to help I will do. You'd be surprised
how much other agencies can help out when rolling out new technologies.
The first thing you are ALWAYS going to hear is "security".... now how
anyone can say security and Windows in the same sentence always baffles
me... but, they will say it.
I talked with the Army Web Administrator (http://www.army.mil) - they
migrated to OS X in 1999 (I believe) after being hit with a windows
hack... they have not been hacked since.
Bill Cerniuk composed a message for me explaining why they had
migrated, and the results of the migration...
When you are in a division of HHS - and you get the ARMY public website
backing you up on security - there is nothing a mindless Windows
following ISSO can do to discredit OS X security.
You'll then move to the "can't do certain tasks" argument... just make
sure you have all your ducks in a row. Hit the hard areas (for us it
is financial reimbursement)... show how the Mac will keep generating
funds when the rest of the systems are down - they're in.
Partnerships with other Fed agencies are crucial, because as we all
know most of them (agencies) are afraid to be the first at anything.
I am lucky to have people all the way up to the national CIO believing
in what I do - others are not always so lucky.
Show what the Mac can do that they NEED (like I did with X-SYS)... then
it will speak for itself.
At any rate - yes, anything you need from me I will do.
Mike
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On Apr 11, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Paul D Yu wrote:
We are planning to form a Mac Federal Users Group. Would you be
willing to put together a preso on you migration plans for that forum?
Paul
On Apr 11, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Michael Pike wrote:
If any other agencies need a reference for Mac and Windows
interoperability - we have been migrating to Mac (server and
workstation) for over a year.
Recently - we have made plans and procured G5 iMac machines to
replace executive level (CEO, CFO, etc) Windows machines.
We were hit hard with a virus, so hard that the realization of
investment in slightly higher priced hardware in the beginning
results in far less expense in the future.
On the Tiger comments - you can get the latest and greatest of
everything for development and testing by joining the ADC (Apple
Developer Connection - http://connect.apple.com).
I've been developing on Tiger for over two months - and it is truly
the finest user and development experience I have ever had (and I've
developed under everything from CP/M, to Linux, to Windows).
mike
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On Apr 11, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Paul D Yu wrote:
Dave
From my perspective. It was great that Apple spent all those
resources at FOSE. Compared to a few years ago where we had to beg
for resources to support this show. Having said that...
1) The Apple banner blended into the ceiling color of Dark
Grey/Black. I came down the escalator directly in front of the
booth and miss the booth!!!
2) Apple should have done more to educate the market at FOSE.
a) Education sessions on Mac OS X interoperability with MS Windows
b) Education sessions on Mac OS X RAID or storage solutions
c) Education on OS X as a secure and real operating system
alternative to Windows
d) Education session on OS X security
Most of the federal population does know anything about Apple. They
lost touch long before Steve came back. The booth did not really
talk to those people that don't know the OS X platform capabilities.
3) Apple booth should have Windows machines in it.
Interoperability with the other side is crucial. You have to show
how Windows desktop can access OS X Servers or XServe RAIDS. You
have to show Mac Entourage accessing Exchange Server. You have to
should Active Directory, etc. etc. May be you do, but I didn't see
it at the show.
Hope this helps...
Paul
For those that came by the Apple booth at FOSE - what did you think?
Did we have the right products and people there? Was there anything
that you thought should have been there that was not? Anything you
especially liked?
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