RE: [Fed-Talk] Email client support for WebMail on an Exchange server
RE: [Fed-Talk] Email client support for WebMail on an Exchange server
- Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] Email client support for WebMail on an Exchange server
- From: "Lawlin, David C CIV (NAVAIR 4.1.3)" <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:11:02 -0500
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Email client support for WebMail on an Exchange server
Note that the domain [nadsusea] will be different depending on where
you are/sit on NMCI.
As Ref below:
>>> Specifically, https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil where the user would
>>> retrieve their email as
>>> user: nadsusea/[username]
>>> pw: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dave
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For those who missed this message:
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Shawn Geddis
> Date: July 29, 2005 6:25:53 PM EDT
> Cc: Fed Talk <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Email client support for WebMail on an
> Exchange server
>
>> On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Lawlin, David C CIV (NAVAIR 4.1.3)
>> wrote:
>>> Is it possible to use Apple Mail or Entourage in place of a
>>> Webclient (Safari or IE) to check Webmail hosted by an Exchange
>>> server.
>>>
>>> Specifically, https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil where the user would
>>> retrieve their email as
>>> user: nadsusea/[username]
>>> pw: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> The site is PKI enabled and I have been successful in using my CAC
>>> card with 10.4 to check my email with Safari.
>>>
>>> Dave
>
> David,
>
> First, good to hear you have successfully been using 10.4, Safari and
> your CAC to access https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil for webmail.
>
> Both Apple Mail and MS Entourage access an Exchange Server 2003 or
> higher using IMAP and WebDAV, since they are both accessing it via OWA
> - Outlook Web Access. This is not the same as Webmail and as Lee
> noted, would require IMAP/WebDAV enabled (which they are by
> default) on the Exchange 2003 Server. By the way, as has been
> mentioned on this list before, the older Exchange Server 5.5 required
> MAPI and hence neither Apple Mail nor Entourage can access accounts on
> the older servers.
>
> Lee mentions...
>> MCI limits access to the NMCI Exchange Server to NMCI hard seats
>> (running Outlook), NMCI Terminal Services seats (running Outlook on
>> remote Windows Application Servers that NMCI controls), to Webmail
>> (from any host with the correct PKI) and to the NMCI Blackberries.
>
> Sounds like you could also use the MS Remote Desktop Connector for Mac
> OS X to attach to the Terminal Services as well.
>
> MS Remote Desktop Connector
> <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?
> pid=remotedesktopclient>
>
> Download Link
> <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx?pid=download&location=/
> mac/download/misc/
> rdc_update_103.xml&secid=80&ssid=10&flgnosysreq=True>
>
>
> Lee, response on your other comments
>> I USED to access NMCI Webmail with my browser (before the 10.4
>> upgrade broke the ActivCard software and my laptop's ability talk
>> to our CAC card readers).
>
> There is no need to install ActivCard Gold on Mac OS X. Smart Card
> Services are built into Mac OS X 10.4 and fully integrated into the
> OS-based PKI. This means that OS X Login, Apple Mail, Safari,
> Internet Connect, MS Entourage, ... all fully access the Smart
> Cards as part of the built-in services. All you needs is a
> supported reader (30+) and if it is not a CCID compliant or is not
> one of those supported by the pre-installed drivers then you just
> need to install the corresponding driver. The ActivCard USBv2
> Reader (SCM SCR331 + Firmware mods) is indeed supported on Mac OS X
> 10.4 either by way of installing the driver (ActCCID.bundle) or
> flashing the reader to be its original CCID Compliant firmware
> (http://www.scmmicrosystems.com & ftp://ftp.scmmicrosystems.com/).
>
>> For now I am running VirtualPC on my Mac and either Webmail or
>> Outlook via terminal services. Not very efficient by 1) the CAC
>> card still works under Windows and 2) the Macintosh version of
>> terminal services under NMCI does not work reliably.
>
> You're running everything under VPC ?
> Try Webmail via Safari/CAC .... at least...
> What are the issues you are facing with RDC on OS X ? Have you
> submitted these issues to MS ?
>
> -Shawn
> ___________________________________________
> Shawn Geddis
> Security Consulting Engineer
> Apple Computer - US Federal Government
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Lee Zimmerman wrote:
>> Dave,
>>
>> Unfortunately, what you want doesn't appear to be possible...or at
>> least no one here at the Navy's "premier" C4ISR R&D facility has
>> been able to figure it out. ;-) NMCI limits access to the NMCI
>> Exchange Server to NMCI hard seats (running Outlook), NMCI
>> Terminal Services seats (running Outlook on remote Windows
>> Application Servers that NMCI controls), to Webmail (from any host
>> with the correct PKI) and to the NMCI Blackberries. At least here,
>> the NMCI network is physically separate from our "R&D" network, so
>> there is a firewall in place that can easily block the ports
>> Entourage would need to connect to the Exchange server. Mail.app
>> wouldn't work because, as far as I know, the NMCI Exchange Servers
>> are not configured to support PoP or IMAP protocols. There's also
>> the issue of having to figure out the NMCI naming convention to
>> get connected to the right Exchange Server in the first place
>> (somehow I don't think the Help Desk is going to support that).
>>
>> I USED to access NMCI Webmail with my browser (before the 10.4
>> upgrade broke the ActivCard software and my laptop's ability talk
>> to our CAC card readers). For now I am running VirtualPC on my Mac
>> and either Webmail or Outlook via terminal services. Not very
>> efficient by 1) the CAC card still works under Windows and 2) the
>> Macintosh version of terminal services under NMCI does not work
>> reliably.
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