Re: [Fed-Talk] ISight and Bluetooth removal
Re: [Fed-Talk] ISight and Bluetooth removal
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] ISight and Bluetooth removal
- From: Brian Raymond <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:46:45 -0500
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] ISight and Bluetooth removal
I have dealt with Apple on the federal side a lot and in my experience they
don't have much influence over product development. A see a couple of
reasons for this, the first being exactly what you state below, business is
business and they do what appeals to a majority of users as that generally
means more revenue. The second is that Apple isn't focusing on the
enterprise customer enough to have them drive a lot unless it means a
commitment for $XXXXXX before anything is done. From personal experience I
will tell you that even then it doesn't mean it will happen. Look at the
growth sectors for the company and how the products are being positioned and
you can understand why they wouldn't focus on under 1% of their overall
revenue stream.
- Brian
On 1/13/06 10:42 AM, "Peter Link" <email@hidden> wrote:
> (This email went to Ian yesterday but didn't make the list. After
> reading the other 1000 emails I missed while attending MWSF, some of
> my responses have been addressed by others but I wanted to send it
> out anyway so others could see my response to Ian.)
>
> Ian,
> This is more than a DOE problem, it's a Government and
> possibly an enterprise problem. I was at MWSF today and was walking
> through the Apple booth when an Apple person stopped and asked if I
> had a question. I appreciate that but his response to my question
> about the ease of removing the iSight was not what I wanted to hear
> but what I was afraid I would. Removing the iSight from the iMac
> would require the front bezel to be removed which means everything
> gets removed. He suggested we simply drill out the lens and epoxy the
> hole. This can be done but this isn't the type of answer I would want
> to come from an Apple representative. He continued to say that 99% of
> the customers want the iSight in; the 1% being Government users. I
> hope that the Government accounts for more than 1% because if that's
> all there is and Apple follows the typical business model of only
> doing things for the majority of users, then there won't be a Mac in
> any Government installation. The DoD folks have already said this on
> this list.
>
> The answer I wanted to hear was that Apple will be working on
> a special configuration for the Government, and others, that removes
> the iSight, wireless, and bluetooth during installation. I think most
> people who read this list will agree that a lower end iMac and
> MacBook Pro would be just fine for them at work (I'm being sarcastic
> about it being lower end because these computers are really nice even
> without the options listed above). We want to keep using Macs, we
> don't want to be forced to use Windows computers. If Apple doesn't
> come up with something that satisfies all Government departments,
> then that's what we will be using.
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:49:07 -0500
> Ian Thompson <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> I am going to reach out to the CIO of Energy HQ and see if they will
>> allocate a gov't resource to me and Apple to come up with a guide to
>> disable the camera and bluetooth that meets DOE specs.
>>
>> The idea is that we work together to have a process to disable that
>> functionality, that DOE and Apple, in writing, says is hunky dory.
>> Once that happens, we go to our certified Apple Resellers and teach
>> then what to do to each Macbook or iMac to make it "certifiably DOE
>> disabled".
>>
>> My goal is to try to achieve this once at the HQ level at DOE in
>> Washington, so all the labs and authorized resellers can get these
>> Macbooks with out violating any rules.
>>
>> Thoughts and volunteers needed. I am reaching out to Tom Pike
>> tomorrow. I'll let DStraub know how the conversation goes.
>>
>> Ian Thompson
>> Regional Manager
>> Federal Government Sales email@hidden
>> O (703) 264-3241
>> C (703) 216-4447
>>
>> Apple Computer, Inc.
>> 1892 Preston White Drive
>> Reston, VA 20191
>>
>>
>>
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