Re: [Fed-Talk] Security Update Broke my ftp service (Very important)
Re: [Fed-Talk] Security Update Broke my ftp service (Very important)
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Security Update Broke my ftp service (Very important)
- From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:04:37 -0500
On Apr 26, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Michael Pike wrote:
Yes, imaging is a possibility and that's what we've used in the past,
but it is far from VMWare's "click snapshot" (less than a few seconds)
and snapping back to it. It's also a big problem with storage... with
a VM it's relatively manageable (1.6 gig for XP)... and I do not need
multiple partitions. I can also create a "standard build" with one VM
image that works on everything (in fact, I do this.. I build a
standard something, and give it to our CEO to use, and he literally
clicks the "play" button in Parallels. You cannot do that with OS
X... unless of course he is on identical hardware.
Incorrect. Standard Mac OS X images that can support any hardware can
be, and are routinely, easily maintained.
Being able to hand out a standard VM for testing that people can use
with VMware Player is a different issue, and I do agree that would be
nice.
Now that their are
MacPros, iMacs, G4's, G5's, macminis, etc imaging with OS X is not as
simple as one build fits all.
Actually, it is, and we an many other institutions do. You can,
today, build one image that will boot ALL systems, and you can even,
if you are so inclined, maintain a Universal 10.4.x image that will
boot all Intel and PowerPC systems that support Tiger (though most
choose to maintain a separate Intel and PowerPC image at present).
This has all been exhaustively discussed on lists more appropriate to
this type of discussion (such as the MacEnterprise.org list). The
ONLY real current difference than the status quo since 10.0.0 is that
we have two build trains of Mac OS X 10.4.x on PowerPC and Intel. In
previous posts, I already explained in some detail what the issues
and differences are.
Further, everything will again be "officially" unified and Universal
with Mac OS X 10.5.x. The only "issue" that will remain is the same
one that always has; namely, that new hardware will come with a
slightly newer build of whatever the current shipping 10.x.y is,
which will be resolved by 10.x.y+1. The newest build can *ALWAYS* be
used on any hardware that supports that general version of Mac OS X.
Especially with the MacPro... I won;t
even go into what happened with our MacPro when we experimented with
different images.
Then you simply weren't doing things right. The newest Mac OS X
10.4.x (Intel) build will always support all Intel-based Macs that
support Mac OS X 10.4.x (which is currently all of them), including
Mac Pro, and, technically, even all PowerPC systems that support Mac
OS X 10.4.x (as long as you follow the procedure for building
integrated images, which frankly isn't worthwhile for most people).
- Dave
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