On 12/30/08 6:23 PM, "Joel Esler" <email@hidden> wrote: On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Timothy J. Miller allegedly wrote: > Fletcher, Boyd C. CIV US USJFCOM JFL J9935 wrote: > >> For 20+ years prior to the mid 90s almost all email users used >> separate >> standalone apps for email, ab, and calendaring. > >> We when apps that combined those functions came out users rapidly >> migrated >> to them example include those above and program line Pine. We at >> worked at >> university, we provide pine, unix mail, and a variety of other X >> Window and >> ASCII based mail programs and users by a large amount chose pine >> because it >> integrated AB and Email and it had a easy to use UI. > > While we had IMAP4 for mail and LDAP for directories, what we lacked > was CalDAV/iCalendar for events and XMPP for presence--and simple > hooks for applications to call one another. It was these gaps that > made the integrated applications more palatable. > > That picture has changed (on some platforms, anyway :), so isn't it > time to re-evaluate ancient design decisions? > > > you don't always need a formal study to determine trends. in the > 1998 > > we use IMAP/POP3 for email and LDAP for AB and we made available a > > variety of email/ab clients to users and almost all chose Outlook 98 > > over the others because of the tight integration and better UI. > > Not to determine broad trends, no; but to evaluate trends and make > good sense of them, yes you do need formal studies for that. Since I moved from Mutt/Pine, to Outlook, and now onto Mail, iCal, AB.. I must say I prefer the separate structure method. If I want to open one App, I can. Just my calendar. That way i don't have email pouring in all the time (and it does pour). Maybe it's a perception thing. When I worked with Outlook (yes, i've worked with the current in a day to day basis, and hated it), I expected certain things to work a certain way. When I found out, when I tried to do those certain things, and they didn't work, I got angry. If I am working with 3 different apps, and something doesn't work as I expect it to, then I guess, in the back of my mind I can blame it on the fact that it's 3 separate apps. But, I do prefer the 3 app method. 4 if you include iChat, which also integrates into AB and Mail.
On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Boyd Fletcher allegedly wrote:
but if you ask the majority of users in an enterprise you get a different response.
Depends on who you ask I guess. ;)
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