Re: [Fed-Talk] Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger no longer supported by Apple?
Re: [Fed-Talk] Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger no longer supported by Apple?
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger no longer supported by Apple?
- From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:10:29 -0600
Or, on the flip-side, they will try to provide best effort support for nearly anything. It's a duality that is maddening (and helpful) at times.
- Dave
On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Allan Marcus wrote:
> If you ask AppleCare, officially, Apple only supports the current shipping OS. The fact that Apple releases 10.5 updates is gravy (gravy being good :-)
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> Allan Marcus
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> On Nov 10, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Nichols, Jared - 1160 - MITLL wrote:
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>> I pointed out to Shawn Geddis that exact point (no official EOL/documentation) not long ago. The policy here is that if an OS is no longer receiving security patches, it can't be on our production network. I don't think it's too outlandish of a policy and I'm sure plenty of folks on this list work at places with the same policy. But, without such documentation/policy, we never *really* know that the OS isn't being patched so therefore, you have all of these older OSes out on the LAN that by wink-wink nudge-nudge we *know* aren't being patched, but there's nothing official from Apple backing that up so we can't actually go to the user or their management and say, "Look, you have to get it of the LAN or upgrade it"
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>> The policy of having no policy is completely naive if a company is going to be in Enterprise. There are folks within Apple who agree that it's asinine... I'm not sure why Apple is so loathe to change this point. I'm not really sure what damage is occurring when a company says "our OS from x years ago is no longer going to be patched," heck, you may get some more sales from that.
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>> I just don't understand it.
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>> Jared F. Nichols
>> Desktop Engineer, Infrastructure & Operations
>> Information Services Department
>> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
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>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Dave Schroeder wrote:
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>>> Of course, Apple doesn't have an official EOL schedule or documentation, so we can never "prove" to security staff or executive leadership that a particular OS is no longer supported. This is further complicated by the fact that Apple sometimes does provide security updates for 10.x-2 (where 10.x is the current release of Mac OS X) soon after 10.x is released.
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>>> The best practice that has prevailed since 10.0 is that Apple *always* provides security and other updates for 10.x and 10.x-1. Once 10.x is released, anything <=10.x-2 is no longer supported by security updates.
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>>> - Dave
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>>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Nichols, Jared - 1160 - MITLL wrote:
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>>>> Yes, that is correct. Typically Apple will patch OS release N and N-1. 10.4 is now N-2.
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>>>> Jared F. Nichols
>>>> Desktop Engineer, Infrastructure & Operations
>>>> Information Services Department
>>>> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
>>>> 244 Wood Street
>>>> Lexington, Massachusetts 02420
>>>> 781.981.5436
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>>>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Rex Sanders wrote:
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>>>>> Apple released security updates today for 10.6 and 10.5, but none for 10.4,
>>>>> even though the updates covered many packages (like Apache) present in 10.4
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like Apple has dropped support for Tiger
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Rex Sanders, USGS
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