On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Allan Marcus wrote:
> If you ask AppleCare, officially, Apple only supports the current
shipping OS. The fact that Apple releases 10.5 updates is gravy (gravy
being good :-)
>
> ---
> Thanks,
>
> Allan Marcus
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> On Nov 10, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Nichols, Jared - 1160 - MITLL wrote:
>
>> I pointed out to Shawn Geddis that exact point (no official
EOL/documentation) not long ago. The policy here is that if an OS is
no longer receiving security patches, it can't be on our production
network. I don't think it's too outlandish of a policy and I'm sure
plenty of folks on this list work at places with the same policy. But,
without such documentation/policy, we never *really* know that the OS
isn't being patched so therefore, you have all of these older OSes out
on the LAN that by wink-wink nudge-nudge we *know* aren't being
patched, but there's nothing official from Apple backing that up so we
can't actually go to the user or their management and say, "Look, you
have to get it of the LAN or upgrade it"
>>
>> The policy of having no policy is completely naive if a
company is going to be in Enterprise. There are folks within Apple who
agree that it's asinine... I'm not sure why Apple is so loathe to
change this point. I'm not really sure what damage is occurring when a
company says "our OS from x years ago is no longer going to be
patched," heck, you may get some more sales from that.
>>
>> I just don't understand it.
>> ---
>> Jared F. Nichols
>> Desktop Engineer, Infrastructure & Operations
>> Information Services Department
>> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
>> 244 Wood Street
>> Lexington, Massachusetts 02420
>> 781.981.5436
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Dave Schroeder wrote:
>>
>>> Of course, Apple doesn't have an official EOL schedule or
documentation, so we can never "prove" to security staff or executive
leadership that a particular OS is no longer supported. This is further
complicated by the fact that Apple sometimes does provide security
updates for 10.x-2 (where 10.x is the current release of Mac OS X) soon
after 10.x is released.
>>>
>>> The best practice that has prevailed since 10.0 is that
Apple *always* provides security and other updates for 10.x and 10.x-1.
Once 10.x is released, anything <=10.x-2 is no longer supported by
security updates.
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Nichols, Jared - 1160 - MITLL
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, that is correct. Typically Apple will patch OS
release N and N-1. 10.4 is now N-2.
>>>> ---
>>>> Jared F. Nichols
>>>> Desktop Engineer, Infrastructure & Operations
>>>> Information Services Department
>>>> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
>>>> 244 Wood Street
>>>> Lexington, Massachusetts 02420
>>>> 781.981.5436
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Rex Sanders wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Apple released security updates today for 10.6 and
10.5, but none for 10.4,
>>>>> even though the updates covered many packages
(like Apache) present in 10.4
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like Apple has dropped support for Tiger
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Rex Sanders, USGS
>>>>>
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