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[Fed-Talk] Re: Promise SmartStor DS4600 4x1TB (and new Mini Server and Snow Leopard Server install experience)
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  • Subject: [Fed-Talk] Re: Promise SmartStor DS4600 4x1TB (and new Mini Server and Snow Leopard Server install experience)
  • From: David Emery <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:24:53 -0400


I think competitive is a stretch. while the device is useful, the huge advantage of the drobo is the ability to use mismatched drives and upgrade to large drives later. Plus the drobo has a full Os that allows it to be a stand alone server (if you get the network option).


Still, it's good to see old technologies like FW800 get a little boost.
I've been looking into this lately. I see two problems with the current (2nd) generation of Drobo:
1. cost
2. performance
With respect to #2, here's a quote from OWC on their new competing product:
Qx2 is up to 80MB/s over FireWire 800, up to 230MB/s via eSATA.... Drobo is,
at best, under 30MB/s via Firewire 800 and costs more than the Qx2 too. :)
I'm not sure if Qx2 (http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other World Computing/MEQX2KIT0GB/) supports the ability of the Drobo to handle different-sized drives. The cost for a Drobo and a Qx2 unpopulated are about the same, but that's quite a difference in delivered performance! And more importantly, the Qx2 provides eSATA, which I think is the direction Apple should be going. I believe current Drobo does not offer eSATA and that's a substantial anti-feature in my mind.

Right now I have some old RAID Mirrored FW800/2xIDE drive enclosures. These have a noisy fan and mediocre performance, but they're free to me :-) I also have an OWC 2xSATA drive enclosure that's set for RAID Mirrored which hosts the files for my internal network (this hangs off a Mini running Leopard server.) I'll probably run with the IDE FW800 RAID Mirrored enclosures until they break or I run out of disk space on their IDE drives.

The big disappointment to me about the Mini Server was no eSATA. The next gen Mini Server really needs to replace 2 of the USB ports with 2 eSATA ports, and Apple could/should have offered a Mini Server option with no optical drive but an eSATA connection. (Granted that would require at least some Mini case surgery...)

(Actually the biggest disappointment to me about the Mini Server is that it came out -2 weeks- after I bought a Mini, more RAM, and Snow Leopard Server!!! My cost for a 2 ghz FW800 refurb Mini from the Apple Store, plus 4gb RAM installed at Micro Center, plus SL Server from eBay, was $950. For another $50 I could have gotten 2x500gb / 5400rpm drives instead of the 1x120gb / 5400 drive and another .5ghz clock speed, at the loss of the internal optical drive. Oh well!)

Speaking of Snow Leopard Server: It took me about 10 minutes to go from boot-after-install to up-and-running. In my case, I already had an OS X (Leopard) server providing DNS and Open Directory LDAP. With those in place (including the DNS entry for the new SL Server Mini's IP address), I was able to configure my 3 different websites (not counting 50gb file copy time :-), set up Wiki and Blogging on one of them to play with, and install IPNetRouter and a USB 2.0 Ethernet adapter to configure the SL Server as a 2-ethernet firewall router. I'm not doing email. Although IPNetRouter is not a 64 bit (KEXT) application, it's working -just fine-. Right now that Mini is responding on port 80, and the older G4/933 Tiger Server it'll replace is handling other port traffic (including SSL/SFTP). I want to let the SL Server Mini run for a couple more days to ensure everything is stable before finally retiring the G4/933.

      dave

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