Re: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions
Re: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:22:44 -0400
I tether my Palm Treo on Sprint. Now that Sprint has a step-by-step
guide up on their website, it's extremely easy to set up and works very
well with my MacBook Air. I now use it a lot. I suspect that if it
were very easy for AT&T and the iPhone, laptop users would use it all
the time. I do also suspect that AT&T's fears about bandwidth
saturation would come to pass.
Joe
From: "Wm. Cerniuk" <email@hidden>
To: "Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA)" <email@hidden>
Cc: "Walls, Bryan K. (MSFC-IS30)" <email@hidden>, email@hidden
Date: 09/15/2009 13:49
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions
Mike,
Largely concur. AT&T is, by some accounts, just about the last carrier
who handles the iPhone to support tethering. I personally suspect it is
because they had not been able separate the unlimited data plan from the
data used during tethering (and billing)...
I would be very interested to see how many more people start tethering
with their iPhone vs tethering using a USB stick or a BlackBerry or
otherwise. It has not really caught on with the BB. Is it because it is
miserable to do so? The USB sticks require another gadget (and don't we
all have enough cables and junk?). Both USB modem and BB have unlimited
data plans for tethering yet I don't seem them lighting the world on
fire. Would the iPhone tethering?
I believe that the iPhone allows full usage while tethering back to the
computer. I seem to recall that Palm, BlackBerry and Wince go dead
while tethering. Is that the goose tethering needs? Otherwise it may be
a tree falling in the woods making no sound.
V/R,
Wm. Cerniuk
Ph: 703.594.7616
On Sep 11, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA) wrote:
I beg to differ... the iPhone Configuration Utility is how it was
accomplished, and that is supported by Apple... ATT says I have
unlimited data on my iPhone... i'm not a bandwidth pig, like I
said we did it for testing.
Trust me, there is NO WAY under 3.0 or 3.01 ATT can tell if you
are surfing through the iPhone or a tether. I could get into
specifics as to why, but I won't... but on that note, 3.1 changed
that.
You can even take an ATT wireless network card, put your iPhone
sim card in it and surf through a mobile connection card... ATT
makes no changes from the iPhone to their regular remote APN.
I have four iphones like I said.. this one will stay 3.01 forever
unless ATT offers something comparable.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Schroeder [mailto:email@hidden]
Sent: Fri 9/11/2009 2:24 PM
To: Paul Kwan
Cc: Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA); Walls, Bryan K. (MSFC-IS30); Joel
Esler; email@hidden
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions
This is not supported by Apple or AT&T, and is a violation of
AT&T's
terms of service (which has specific, discrete data plans for
tethering).
While it doesn't require *jailbreaking* the phone, it's still a
hack,
as it replaces the devices carrier file with an unsupported one to
expose the tethering option.
The reason why tethering plans cost more is that it's far easier
to
use significantly more data via a conventional computer than it is
via
a handset, even a smartphone. While the jaded among us might say
it's
just another way for a carrier to grab more money, AT&T has had
incredible difficulties keeping up with even the network demands
of
the iPhone itself, which has been referred to by analysts as the
"Hummer of smartphones", because of the fact that iPhone users use
disproportionately more data services than other smartphone users.
This is because the iPhone makes it so easy; similarly, iPhone
tethering is ridiculously easy, and if it were "just enabled",
AT&T's
network would quickly collapse under the onslaught, and any
network
buildout to support such usage would result in unlimited data
plans
being far more than $30/mo.
- Dave
On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Paul Kwan wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I am interested in trying to get my iPhone to use tethering
> without hacking it, can you provide us a link or the detail how
one
> can achieve this. Thanks for your help, I appreciated. Take
care.
>
> PSK
>
>
> On 9/11/09 [Sep 11] 8:26 AM, "Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA)" <
email@hidden
> > wrote:
>
>> I was able to enable tethering on 3.0 and 3.01 without hacking
the
>> phone (using the tethering ability built by apple)... it works
>> flawlessly... for this very reason I will never upgrade, unless
>> they return that ability. As an iPhone developer we have to
test
>> these things. It's not an easy thing to do, you have to build
am
>> mobileconfig, properly form the XML, etc... taking it out has
>> stopped me from upgrading period.
>>
>> if ATT wants to regain some customer loyalty, they will give
free
>> tethering to iPhone users, I think we've earned it getting 4
years
>> of terrible service.
>>
>> With that being said, September 20th ATT releases "the A
List"..
>> free calls to any 5 or 10 numbers without using minutes (ilke
>> tmobile Myfav)... for those of us with googlevoice, this just
>> became an unlimited phone plan.
>>
>> the problem is now I am stuck with tmobile on one of my phones
and
>> they originally told me i had 30 days to get out of the
contract,
>> now its 14 and i had had it 17 days....
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fed-talk-bounces+michael.pike=email@hidden on
>> behalf of Walls, Bryan K. (MSFC-IS30)
>> Sent: Fri 9/11/2009 8:01 AM
>> To: Joel Esler
>> Cc: email@hidden
>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Two Iphone Email Questions
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Joel Esler wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA
TRADOC <email@hidden
>> > > wrote:
>> > 1. The latest Iphone software update apparently screws up
Exchange
>> > email on Iphone 3G. Does this mean that ALL email (including
>> native
>> > Iphone email app) is screwed up and will be disabled so the
upgrade
>> > should be avoided for 3G Iphones or that it only affects the
>> > Exchange email in Iphone 3G? And if it does screw up the
entire
>> > phone can the 3G be restored to the older software?
>> >
>> > What do you mean "it's screwed up"? I haven't seen any
problems.
>> >
>>
>> I think by "screwed up" he means that 3.1 enforces the
ActiveSync
>> policy requiring device encryption. At least that's how I parse
the
>> description at
>>
http://www.macworld.com/article/142737/2009/09/iphone31_exchange.html?lsrc=rss_main
>> toward the bottom of the article.
>>
>> Exchange 2007 SP1 included the option to require Exchange
encryption.
>> If that's on, only the 3GS will work with ActiveSync.
>>
>> >
>> > 2. I've heard that there is a glitch in all Iphone software
so
>> that
>> > email never really gets deleted from the phone (this seems to
be
>> > true in my testing). Is there a fix for that? (I almost
typed "an
>> > app for that"). Heh-heh.
>> >
>> > yes, 3.1 released Wednesday.
>> >
>> >
>> > <ATT00001.txt>
>>
>>
>>
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