[Fed-Talk] Re: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 352
[Fed-Talk] Re: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 352
- Subject: [Fed-Talk] Re: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 352
- From: "Thomas, Christopher CIV DTIC Z" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:20:27 -0500
- Thread-topic: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 352
Title: Re: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 352
Mr. Winslow
I posted your suggested steps on DoDTechipedia wiki (https://www.dodtechipedia.mil). If you have any updates you can post them in the wiki or please pass them to me and I will update the wiki.
Thanks
Christopher Thomas
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Today's Topics:
1. DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
(Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC)
2. RE: CAC Assistance (Smith CIV Larry E)
3. Re: DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads (Miller, Timothy J.)
4. Re: DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads (Link, Peter R.)
5. RE: DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads (Mike Moore)
6. Re: DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads (Wm. Cerniuk)
7. Re: DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads (Wm. Cerniuk)
8. Re: DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads (Joel Esler)
9. RE: DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads (Moore, Dallas T.)
10. RE: DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads (Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ))
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:19:06 -0500
From: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden>
Subject: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
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Is it okay to download DoD certificates onto an Iphone/Ipad? If so, how (since there's no way to hook either that I know of to a CAC).
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:58:51 -0500
From: "Smith CIV Larry E" <email@hidden>
Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] CAC Assistance
To: "Michael Winslow" <email@hidden>, "Niles, John B RET"
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Michael - thanks for the info. This seems to work fine on mobile accounts on different clients. Two more questions: can you change the login screen to only allow CACs and can you enforce the screen saver or lock the client when the CAC is removed?
Thanks
Larry
Larry E. Smith II
Technical Director
USMC CDET
2300 A Louis Rd.
Quantico, VA 22134
703-784-5193 DSN 278
Bb 240-299-2226
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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 11:45 PM
To: Niles, John B RET; email@hidden
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] CAC Assistance
Yes, it is pretty easy to setup CAC login on your Mac. I do not have CAC
authentication working with the Apple Mail app, but I do have my Webmail
working via Entourage for Mac (2008) via CAC.
To get CAC login to your Mac working, you simply need to link the CAC Cert
ID with your account on your machine. Apple built in a command line tool for
doing this. Step by step instructions would be as follows (for Snow Leopard
10.6). I am assuming that you have an administrative account on your machine
(if you don't some steps may change slightly).
1. Open a Terminal Window (Macintosh HD -> Applications -> Utilities ->
Terminal.app)
2. type in "sc_auth hash" without the quotes
3. Select the long hash code (Hexadecimal) number for your Identity Private
Key (Should be 40 characters long). Copy this Hexadecimal number.
4. You need to know your account's short name, if you do not know what it
is, you can simply type in "whoami" into terminal and it will tell you your
shortname.
5. Finally, map your certificate to your CAC by typing in the following
command "sudo sc_auth accept -u <SHORT_NAME> -h <CERT_HASH_NUMBER>"
replacing <SHORT_NAME> with your account's short name that you got in Step 4
and <CERT_HASH_NUMBER> that you copied in Step 3. You will be prompted to
type in your password as this requires privileged access to do.
Here is the supporting document that I used to come up with this...
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24244?viewlocale=en_US
Thanks,
Michael Winslow
SPAWAR Systems Center Pacific
On 11/29/10 8:12 AM, "Niles, John B RET" <email@hidden> wrote:
> Fed-Talk,
>
> I have recently been informed that all computers on our network must be
> equipped to log in with a CAC card. No password logins will be allowed. The
> deadline is mid-December (I usually get these notices late).
>
> I am working with some of the IT people at my location regarding my Macs.
> There are some options. However, their contract does not cover Macs, so for
> the most part, I will have to figure something out, or I will be using PC's
> shortly.
>
> The best solution would be to modify my login to require a CAC. While I know
> this is possible, I do not know of a simple way to arrange this.
>
> Does someone have a cookbook solution for this problem suitable for someone
> who is not an IT type? Just a step by step route?
>
> Also, is there a cookbook solution for modifying Mail to login only with a
> CAC? This is not as important because I can always fall back to AKO CAC
> login, although it would be clunky.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Niles
> OGL Enterprises LLC
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:36:07 -0500
From: "Miller, Timothy J." <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
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On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
> Is it okay to download DoD certificates onto an Iphone/Ipad?
Yes.
> If so, how (since there's no way to hook either that I know of to a CAC).
Damfino. :-/
-- Tim
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:39:29 -0800
From: "Link, Peter R." <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
To: "Miller, Timothy J." <email@hidden>
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Certificates should be able to be downloaded using the iPhone configuration utility or a commercial iPhone/iPad management application/system.
On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Miller, Timothy J. wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
>
>> Is it okay to download DoD certificates onto an Iphone/Ipad?
>
> Yes.
>
>> If so, how (since there's no way to hook either that I know of to a CAC).
>
> Damfino. :-/
>
> -- Tim<smime.p7s><ATT00001..txt>
Peter Link
Cyber Security Analyst
Cyber Security Program
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
PO Box 808, L-315
Livermore, CA 94550
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 05:49:22 -0500
From: Mike Moore <email@hidden>
Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
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Is it just the Army then that has not approved the use of iPhones & iPads yet?
I have not seen anything in writing that has yet to approve the use of these devices.
I would appreciate any documentation that would allow it's use as well as the configuration guide.
Mike Moore
U.S. Army Accessions Command
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> To: email@hidden
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:39:29 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
> CC: email@hidden
>
> Certificates should be able to be downloaded using the iPhone configuration utility or a commercial iPhone/iPad management application/system.
>
> On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Miller, Timothy J. wrote:
>
> > On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
> >
> >> Is it okay to download DoD certificates onto an Iphone/Ipad?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >> If so, how (since there's no way to hook either that I know of to a CAC).
> >
> > Damfino. :-/
> >
> > -- Tim<smime.p7s><ATT00001..txt>
>
> Peter Link
> Cyber Security Analyst
> Cyber Security Program
> Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
> PO Box 808, L-315
> Livermore, CA 94550
> email@hidden
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 06:43:53 -0500
From: "Wm. Cerniuk" <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
To: "Miller, Timothy J." <email@hidden>
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Instructions? Location to get veers?
R/ Wm
On Dec 1, 2010, at 5:36 PM, "Miller, Timothy J." <email@hidden> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
>
>> Is it okay to download DoD certificates onto an Iphone/Ipad?
>
> Yes.
>
>> If so, how (since there's no way to hook either that I know of to a CAC).
>
> Damfino. :-/
>
> -- Tim
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 09:25:21 -0500
From: "Wm. Cerniuk" <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
To: Mike Moore <email@hidden>
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They are being deployed by Army... Google Army+iPhone I recall.
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/09/23/hey-soldier-youre-in-the-iphone-army-now/
"We actually have a pilot study going on right now where we're issuing these things [iPhones] to soldiers in basic training." - LTG Mark Hertling
http://www.newsweek.com/2009/04/17/apple-s-new-weapon.html
An iPod "may be all that they need," says Lt. Col. Jim Ross, director of the Army's intelligence, electronic warfare and sensors operations in Fort Monmouth, New Jersey.
Really want G2 on the method of management Army is using. Suspect it is the Apple provided tools.
Does any other smartphone OS give *the user* the intrinsic security feature of being able to pull their device up on a google style map via the GPS on the device? Or give the user the ability to alert on the device from a browser... Or securely wipe it? I have used this many times for our iOS devices. Very impressed.
R/ Wm.
On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Mike Moore <email@hidden> wrote:
> Is it just the Army then that has not approved the use of iPhones & iPads yet?
> I have not seen anything in writing that has yet to approve the use of these devices.
>
> I would appreciate any documentation that would allow it's use as well as the configuration guide.
>
> Mike Moore
> U.S. Army Accessions Command
>
> > From: email@hidden
> > To: email@hidden
> > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:39:29 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
> > CC: email@hidden
> >
> > Certificates should be able to be downloaded using the iPhone configuration utility or a commercial iPhone/iPad management application/system.
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Miller, Timothy J. wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
> > >
> > >> Is it okay to download DoD certificates onto an Iphone/Ipad?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > >> If so, how (since there's no way to hook either that I know of to a CAC).
> > >
> > > Damfino. :-/
> > >
> > > -- Tim<smime.p7s><ATT00001..txt>
> >
> > Peter Link
> > Cyber Security Analyst
> > Cyber Security Program
> > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
> > PO Box 808, L-315
> > Livermore, CA 94550
> > email@hidden
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 09:32:20 -0500
From: Joel Esler <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
To: "Wm. Cerniuk" <email@hidden>
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They've been piloted on Army networks since before the first iPhone came out.
J
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Wm. Cerniuk <email@hidden> wrote:
> They are being deployed by Army... Google Army+iPhone I recall.
>
> http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/09/23/hey-soldier-youre-in-the-iphone-army-now/
> "We actually have a pilot study going on right now where we're issuing these things [iPhones] to soldiers in basic training." - LTG Mark Hertling
>
> http://www.newsweek.com/2009/04/17/apple-s-new-weapon.html
> An iPod "may be all that they need," says Lt. Col. Jim Ross, director of the Army's intelligence, electronic warfare and sensors operations in Fort Monmouth, New Jersey.
>
> Really want G2 on the method of management Army is using. Suspect it is the Apple provided tools.
>
> Does any other smartphone OS give *the user* the intrinsic security feature of being able to pull their device up on a google style map via the GPS on the device? Or give the user the ability to alert on the device from a browser... Or securely wipe it? I have used this many times for our iOS devices. Very impressed.
>
> R/ Wm.
>
> On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Mike Moore <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Is it just the Army then that has not approved the use of iPhones & iPads yet?
>> I have not seen anything in writing that has yet to approve the use of these devices.
>>
>> I would appreciate any documentation that would allow it's use as well as the configuration guide.
>>
>> Mike Moore
>> U.S. Army Accessions Command
>>
>> > From: email@hidden
>> > To: email@hidden
>> > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:39:29 -0800
>> > Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
>> > CC: email@hidden
>> >
>> > Certificates should be able to be downloaded using the iPhone configuration utility or a commercial iPhone/iPad management application/system.
>> >
>> > On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Miller, Timothy J. wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Is it okay to download DoD certificates onto an Iphone/Ipad?
>> > >
>> > > Yes.
>> > >
>> > >> If so, how (since there's no way to hook either that I know of to a CAC).
>> > >
>> > > Damfino. :-/
>> > >
>> > > -- Tim<smime.p7s><ATT00001..txt>
>> >
>> > Peter Link
>> > Cyber Security Analyst
>> > Cyber Security Program
>> > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
>> > PO Box 808, L-315
>> > Livermore, CA 94550
>> > email@hidden
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 09:50:10 -0500
From: "Moore, Dallas T." <email@hidden>
Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
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What is the Army using as the MDM to provision, secure, and integrate them into the Army IT infrastructure?
v/r
Dallas Moore
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They've been piloted on Army networks since before the first iPhone came out.
J
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Wm. Cerniuk <email@hidden> wrote:
> They are being deployed by Army... Google Army+iPhone I recall.
>
> http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/09/23/hey-soldier-youre-in-the-iphone-army-now/
> "We actually have a pilot study going on right now where we're issuing these things [iPhones] to soldiers in basic training." - LTG Mark Hertling
>
> http://www.newsweek.com/2009/04/17/apple-s-new-weapon.html
> An iPod "may be all that they need," says Lt. Col. Jim Ross, director of the Army's intelligence, electronic warfare and sensors operations in Fort Monmouth, New Jersey.
>
> Really want G2 on the method of management Army is using. Suspect it is the Apple provided tools.
>
> Does any other smartphone OS give *the user* the intrinsic security feature of being able to pull their device up on a google style map via the GPS on the device? Or give the user the ability to alert on the device from a browser... Or securely wipe it? I have used this many times for our iOS devices. Very impressed.
>
> R/ Wm.
>
> On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Mike Moore <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Is it just the Army then that has not approved the use of iPhones & iPads yet?
>> I have not seen anything in writing that has yet to approve the use of these devices.
>>
>> I would appreciate any documentation that would allow it's use as well as the configuration guide.
>>
>> Mike Moore
>> U.S. Army Accessions Command
>>
>> > From: email@hidden
>> > To: email@hidden
>> > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:39:29 -0800
>> > Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
>> > CC: email@hidden
>> >
>> > Certificates should be able to be downloaded using the iPhone configuration utility or a commercial iPhone/iPad management application/system.
>> >
>> > On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Miller, Timothy J. wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Is it okay to download DoD certificates onto an Iphone/Ipad?
>> > >
>> > > Yes.
>> > >
>> > >> If so, how (since there's no way to hook either that I know of to a CAC).
>> > >
>> > > Damfino. :-/
>> > >
>> > > -- Tim<smime.p7s><ATT00001..txt>
>> >
>> > Peter Link
>> > Cyber Security Analyst
>> > Cyber Security Program
>> > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
>> > PO Box 808, L-315
>> > Livermore, CA 94550
>> > email@hidden
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 11:06:48 -0500
From: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
To: Mike Moore <email@hidden>, "email@hidden"
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I know every iPhone and ipad I have I had to buy myself. Ihs isn't buying any.
If that helps.
Sent from my Windows 7 Phone
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From: Mike Moore
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Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
Is it just the Army then that has not approved the use of iPhones & iPads yet?
I have not seen anything in writing that has yet to approve the use of these devices.
I would appreciate any documentation that would allow it's use as well as the configuration guide.
Mike Moore
U.S. Army Accessions Command
> From: email@hidden
> To: email@hidden
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:39:29 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] DoD Certificates on Iphones & Ipads
> CC: email@hidden
>
> Certificates should be able to be downloaded using the iPhone configuration utility or a commercial iPhone/iPad management application/system.
>
> On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Miller, Timothy J. wrote:
>
> > On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
> >
> >> Is it okay to download DoD certificates onto an Iphone/Ipad?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >> If so, how (since there's no way to hook either that I know of to a CAC).
> >
> > Damfino. :-/
> >
> > -- Tim<smime.p7s><ATT00001..txt>
>
> Peter Link
> Cyber Security Analyst
> Cyber Security Program
> Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
> PO Box 808, L-315
> Livermore, CA 94550
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