Re: [Fed-Talk] IOS
Re: [Fed-Talk] IOS
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] IOS
- From: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:20:16 -0400
- Priority: normal
This article helped me realize I'm not the only one baffled by not knowing which mailbox the emails are coming from and the reasoning behind having them listed out as well.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/199499/what_apples_ios_4_does_and_doesnt_do_for_business.html?tk=hp_new
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:45
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] IOS
To: Joel Esler <email@hidden>
Cc: "email@hidden" <>, "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
> iFixit has the relevant teardowns, and speculates at <http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPad-Wi-Fi-Teardown/2183/4#s11207> that the spot many thought may be for a camera was really just an ambient light sensor
> all along.
>
> So perhaps it's a but overzealous to say there's "a place for it",
> but Apple was indeed hiring a camera engineer for iPad: <http://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?method=mExternal.showJob&RID=47818>.
>
> Could this simply be related to software and things like the Camera Connection Kit? Perhaps. But it seems a given that a future iteration of the iPad hardware will contain a front-facing camera, given things previously discovered in iOS 3.2.x, a version of iOS which only runs on iPad.
>
> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/ipad_video_calling/>
> <http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/29/apple-was-working-on-video-conferencing-in-ipad/>
>
> Logic would also seem to bear this out, given how perfect an application this would be for iPad. Obviously, Apple hasn't always done things we think they should, but what's more likely is that Apple wants all the software pieces in place for this before they release companion hardware.
>
> What will be more interesting to be is how far beyond iPhone 4 Apple itself will take FaceTime. It will indeed be a standard anyone can use, but will iChat also support FaceTime, allowing for computer-to-iPhone 4 video calls? Apple wants everything to be easy, and Jobs noted it's "as simple as making a phone call", and specifically dismissed the notion of needing to have buddy lists or presence detection. Perhaps that's the *easiest* iteration, but it should would be nice to have FaceTime (or some videoconferencing capability) go beyond just phone-to-phone...
>
> - Dave
>
> On Jun 22, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Joel Esler wrote:
>
> > Are we sure thee is a place for it? Or was it just that one "repair" site that said there was with "pictures"?
> >
> > A recent teardown anyone?
> >
> > --
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Jun 22, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Dave Schroeder < wrote:
> >
> >> It's *possible*, but I'd say that they'd wait a bit longer to do a hardware rev, especially given its success so far.
> >>
> >> I'm still puzzled why they didn't just include the camera hardware right off the bat (especially given that there's a place for it), even if iOS 3.x didn't contain a lot of the required functionality...but then again, maybe that's the reason they chose not to do it...
> >>
> >> <http://www.cultofmac.com/apple-is-hiring-ipad-camera-engineer/38256>
> >>
> >> - Dave
> >>
> >> On Jun 22, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Nichols, Jared - 1170 - MITLL wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anyone else think Apple's holding iOS 4 for iPad for a quick rev of the
> >>> hardware that contains cameras? I know, wild speculation... Apple's
> >>> saying "fall" or iOS 4 for iPad... That would be a 6 month stretch on the
> >>> wi-fi hardware... It's a bit short, but since it has proved to not be a
> >>> bomb of a product, I could see them going for it.
> >>>
> >>> j
> >>> --
> >>> Jared F. Nichols
> >>> Desktop Engineer, Client Services
> >>> Information Services Department
> >>> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> >>> 244 Wood Street
> >>> Lexington, Massachusetts 02420
> >>> 781.981.5436
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 6/22/10 7:21 AM, "Dave Schroeder" < wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So far Apple has just said "fall":
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/04/08iphoneos.html
> >>>>
> >>>> - Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Wm. Cerniuk wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> August is the date for the iPad they say... For iOS 4
> >>>>>
> >>>>> R / Wm.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 15:44, Joel Esler < wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Supposedly this fall everything will be synced up. From what I hear.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ) wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hopefully at some point Apple will have ios versions synced across
> >>>>>>> all devices like iPad and iPhone. I assume its not now for marketing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G Android Phone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Dave Schroeder" <
> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:45 am
> >>>>>>> Subject: [Fed-Talk] IOS
> >>>>>>> To: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <
> >>>>>>> Cc: "email@hidden" <
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So if anyone has any issues with IOS or some mysterious why we
> >>>>>>>> should NOT upgrade to IOS (when traffic on the servers slows
> >>>>>>>> down...don't know if it's even available yet...) please post to the
> >>>>>>>> list.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have a habit of getting into something, having problems, thinking
> >>>>>>>> it's just me and making things worse before I realize it's an issue
> >>>>>>>> everyone is having. I'd rather know what those issues are, if any,
> >>>>>>>> before starting this time.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "iPhone OS" (the OS that runs on iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad) was
> >>>>>>> renamed "iOS"[1]. iOS by itself doesn't mean anything other than the
> >>>>>>> OS family; I presume therefore that you are talking about iOS 4.0, due
> >>>>>>> for release today.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> iOS 4.0 doesn't have any specific known issues that would make me shy
> >>>>>>> away from upgrading; it has been available in its final form since 7
> >>>>>>> June to registered developers, and there haven't been any
> >>>>>>> "showstoppers" discussed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Dave
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] IOS in all caps is Cisco's operating system for its networking
> >>>>>>> equipment; iOS is the OS for iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad. Cisco and
> >>>>>>> Apple agreed to share the trademark:
> >>>>>>> <http://blogs.cisco.com/news/comments/cisco_and_apple_agreement_on_ios_
> >>>>>>> trademark/>
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