[Fed-Talk] Apple Govt Resource pages are missing
[Fed-Talk] Apple Govt Resource pages are missing
- Subject: [Fed-Talk] Apple Govt Resource pages are missing
- From: "Gordon, Bob CIV USAF AF/A3/5PEG" <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:51:47 -0400
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- Thread-topic: Apple Govt Resource pages are missing
Anyone know what has happened? I can't seem to get Apple to respond via email.
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1. Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location Data
(Rimar, Lee D Mr CTR USA USACE USA)
2. Re: Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location Data
(Link, Peter R.)
3. Re: Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location Data
(Todd Heberlein)
4. Re: Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location Data (Joel Esler)
5. RE: Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location Data
(Rimar, Lee D Mr CTR USA USACE USA)
6. Re: Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location Data
(Dan O'Donnell)
7. CACNG.tokend and Leopard (Shomo, Michelle L Ms CTR USA NETCOM)
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:31:15 +0000
From: "Rimar, Lee D Mr CTR USA USACE USA" <email@hidden>
Subject: [Fed-Talk] Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location Data
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Believe them? If so, do these explanations satisfy your curiosity and concern?
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:04:18 -0700
From: "Link, Peter R." <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location
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I never had the curiosity many others are having and I actually liked Conspiracy Theory. (Maybe it was because it included a young Julia Roberts.) On my home computer, I finally downloaded the tracker app and zoomed in on where I know my house is located. Within a couple square miles of my house, I saw several evenly spaced small orange dots in a grid pattern over this area. None were within a quarter mile of my house. There was a slightly larger orange dot, which I will investigate. It might actually be a cell tower. I checked cell tower websites and couldn't find an AT&T tower anywhere near me. That doesn't surprise me since AT&T doesn't publish where their towers are. Looking further away from my house but in areas I know I've been in, I could see the same grid-like placement of the small orange dots. Contrary to the websites that show the map zoomed out, zooming in doesn't really give me any indication of where I've been except for a very general area. I'd love to attach
a zoomed in view to show what I'm not seeing but that would show you where I live. Can't do that!! Oh wait, I'm in the phone book so anyone who wants to can find my house!!
I know everyone is concerned with identify theft, as I am, but this feature of the iPhone isn't going to provide anybody with accurate enough information to find anything out about where an iPhone really has been. Mine shows I've been up and down the I-5 corridor from the Bay area to Canada with only one exception, around Lake of the Woods between Ontario and Minnesota (vacation with my wife). I thought I'd take my iPhone with me on other travels outside the west coast but it didn't log any so I'm safe.
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Believe them? If so, do these explanations satisfy your curiosity and concern?
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:20:00 -0700
From: Todd Heberlein <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location
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On Apr 27, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Link, Peter R. wrote:
> I finally downloaded the tracker app and zoomed in on where I know my house is located.
I think a great mash-up service would be to take your tracking data and combine it with cellphone strength maps out there and then recommend which cellphone service would be best for you.
Todd
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:35:59 -0400
From: Joel Esler <email@hidden>
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I get it. So it's the reverse of what people were implying. The iPhone isn't tracking your location. The iPhone is downloading location data for towers and Wifi hotspots from the area around where you are at.
J
On Apr 27, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Rimar, Lee D Mr CTR USA USACE USA wrote:
> <http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/04/27location_qa.html>
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> Believe them? If so, do these explanations satisfy your curiosity and concern?
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:41:06 +0000
From: "Rimar, Lee D Mr CTR USA USACE USA" <email@hidden>
Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location
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JE> So it's the reverse of what people were implying. The iPhone isn't tracking your location.
JE> The iPhone is downloading location data for towers and Wifi hotspots from the area around where you are at.
I read it as a bit of both. Your phone is sending them info to build their database, as well as getting data collected by others.
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:22:54 -0700
From: Dan O'Donnell <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple - Press Info - Apple Q&A on Location
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A colleague here checked his own location map. It showed the various
locations he knew he had been to with his iphone ? but it also showed
Cupertino, a city he knew he had not visited. Hm, what could possibly be the
cause of an iphone location map displaying Cupertino...?
On 4/27/11 8:04 AM, "Peter Link" <email@hidden> wrote:
> I never had the curiosity many others are having and I actually liked
> Conspiracy Theory. (Maybe it was because it included a young Julia Roberts.)
> On my home computer, I finally downloaded the tracker app and zoomed in on
> where I know my house is located. Within a couple square miles of my house, I
> saw several evenly spaced small orange dots in a grid pattern over this area.
> None were within a quarter mile of my house. There was a slightly larger
> orange dot, which I will investigate. It might actually be a cell tower. I
> checked cell tower websites and couldn't find an AT&T tower anywhere near me.
> That doesn't surprise me since AT&T doesn't publish where their towers are.
> Looking further away from my house but in areas I know I've been in, I could
> see the same grid-like placement of the small orange dots. Contrary to the
> websites that show the map zoomed out, zooming in doesn't really give me any
> indication of where I've been except for a very general area. I'd love to
> attach a zoomed in view to show what I'm not seeing but that would show you
> where I live. Can't do that!! Oh wait, I'm in the phone book so anyone who
> wants to can find my house!!
>
> I know everyone is concerned with identify theft, as I am, but this feature of
> the iPhone isn't going to provide anybody with accurate enough information to
> find anything out about where an iPhone really has been. Mine shows I've been
> up and down the I-5 corridor from the Bay area to Canada with only one
> exception, around Lake of the Woods between Ontario and Minnesota (vacation
> with my wife). I thought I'd take my iPhone with me on other travels outside
> the west coast but it didn't log any so I'm safe.
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Rimar, Lee D Mr CTR USA USACE USA wrote:
>
>> <http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/04/27location_qa.html>
>>
>>
>> Believe them? If so, do these explanations satisfy your curiosity and
>> concern?
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:41:42 -0400
From: "Shomo, Michelle L Ms CTR USA NETCOM"
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Subject: [Fed-Talk] CACNG.tokend and Leopard
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I previously completed testing with Leopard and CACNG tokend, and it was working fine. However last week I had to download the CACNG drivers from the macosforge site again and now when trying to use a Gemalto 144k CAC with Safari I get prompted repeatedly to select a certificate, that the one presented is not accepted.
The issue is being experienced with both Safari 4 and multiple versions of Safari 5. When using Chrome you receive an SSL Connection Error 107. The certificates are listed in a different order within Keychain Access as well. Also with Safari 5 I noticed that it doesn't prompt for a certificate unless you already have an ID Preference setup within Keychain Access (it isn't attempting to add ID Preferences unless one already exists).
The correct certificate is being selected (verified using the serial number) based on what is displayed. The CAC works from the Snow Leopard and Windows systems, so the issue is not the CAC or the websites.
I know that a previous version of the Leopard CACNG had the same symptoms, it appeared that is was sending the same wrong certificate every time no matter which certificate was selected, however when the last release came out this issue was fixed.
Is there any way to verify I have the correct CACNG version? And that the correct version is posted to macosforge.org
The issue is repeatable. I have at least two users with the issue and I have at least 2 systems in the lab with the same issue.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Michelle
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