Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
- From: Jeffrey Walton <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:38:01 -0500
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Dave Schroeder <email@hidden> wrote:
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> On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
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>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM, David Emery <email@hidden> wrote:
>>> Not germaine to this particular discussion.
>> Some would argue that Apple's lack of truthfulness is very relevant.
>> Carrier IQ has a lot of capabilities, and its installed for a reason.
>> Should we believe Apple if we are told its only used for diagnostics?
>> Apple's track record indicates otherwise.
>
> Your argument is already incorrect on its face, since the "lack of truthfulness" you appear to be speaking of is with respect to Location Services.
I believe past performance is indicative of future expectations
(apparently we disagree here). "lack of truthfulness" - I should have
called a pot and kettle black - it was a lie.
> Since location data is still not sent when Location Services is disabled,
Perhaps I missed something:
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=iphone+unauthorized+collection+of+data
> and since this is opt-in (not opt-out), and since nothing nefarious was ever shown to have occurred during any of the other episodes of inordinate attention only iOS received, what is your point?
I work application security, and I'm paid to be suspicious. And I
don't suffer from fanboi tunnel vision.
Random numbers are hard to come by. If someone were using location
data as an entropy source (after extracting the entropy), this would
be a big problem.
I've never met any of my attackers, but it does not mean they don't
exist. If I followed logic asserted in this thread, there would be no
attackers, no need for encryption, and no need for premier code
breaking agencies such as the NSA.
Jeff
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