Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
- From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:09:59 -0600
On Dec 1, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Dave Schroeder <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:14 PM, David Emery <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>> Even here, we're falling prey to speculation.
>>>>
>>>> As I understand it:
>>>> a. Carrier IQ software and its behavior has been demonstrated/shown/verified on some Android phones.
>>>> b. What data actually gets transmitted -off the phone- has not been established.
>>>> c. There's an URL on earlier iOS versions that shows data exchanges with CarrierIQ servers/website. (That's not the same as having CarrierIQ software within iOS!)
>>>> d. Access to that URL on the iPhone is disabled by default. (But it's not clear to me if this is only activated by a local action, or if it can be enabled by a TELCO remotely.)
>>>>
>>>> Is this a correct statement of the facts as we know them now?
>>> You forgot the part about Apple not telling the truth. For example,
>>> Apple had a number of class actions filed against it due to
>>> unauthorized collection and use of location data. This is despite the
>>> fact that Apple told us all we needed to do was turn off Location
>>> Services.
>>
>> Huh? If Location Services is disabled, even if Send Diagnostics is turned on, location data is still not sent.
> https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=iphone+unauthorized+collection+of+data
Big distinction between location data being sent to a third party and being collected locally on the device; and, as I said in my previous message to you, location data is not even accessed by Apple's CIQ implementation if Location Services is disabled.
- Dave
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