Re: [Fed-Talk] is Apple nuts
Re: [Fed-Talk] is Apple nuts
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] is Apple nuts
- From: "Reese, Brian J Mr CTR DoD DMA" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:50:47 -0400
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] is Apple nuts
That's all well and good, but it doesn't seem possible to buy less than 20
licenses with one company AppleID. You either buy one, and then if you try
to buy more, the App store doesn't let you because you already have it, or
you buy 20 or more. The idea of having 15 separate AppleIDs in an
organization and purchasing each license separately is just not feasible.
The only option seems to be to buy 20 and eat the cost of the unused
licenses.
I would think the situation of a company having a small creative department
with less than 20 Macs wouldn't be THAT uncommon. But I guess they are
uncommon enough that Apple seems not to have taken them into consideration.
That or they don't care to take them into consideration.
On 7/21/11 2:38 PM, "Ruben Brochner" <email@hidden> wrote:
> Here is the latest information on Apple Software Volume Licensing:
>
> http://www.apple.com/mac/volume-licensing/
>
> See also:
>
> "Final Cut Pro X, Motion 5, Compressor 4: Deploying across multiple Mac
> systems using Apple Remote Desktop, NetInstall, or NetRestore"
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4781
>
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Bracy, Jason T. wrote:
>
>> That program is for iOS only so far at least... I spoke to Apple last week
>> and they didn't have an answer for me. Currently Lion and FCPX are App Store
>> only and require each license to be tied to an AppleID, which requires a
>> Credit Card. Corporate would throw a fit if all of my users started
>> requesting and using a Corporate Credit Card and the paperwork involved would
>> be a nightmare. Then there is the fact that we have several Temp employees,
>> so what happens when they leave? The software is tied to their AppleID...
>>
>> What they need is to allow business to have a Company AppleID which allows
>> multiple purchases of the same software. Then I can buy and install however
>> many copies I need and log off of the App Store when I'm done so that users
>> can't buy with that ID.
>>
>> - -
>>
>> Jason Bracy | SAIC
>> Systems Administrator | SAIC Creative | phone: 703.676.6145
>>
>> https://issaic.saic.com/corporate/saic-creative
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fed-talk-bounces+jason.t.bracy=email@hidden
>> [mailto:fed-talk-bounces+jason.t.bracy=email@hidden] On Behalf Of
>> Reese, Brian J Mr CTR DoD DMA
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:22 PM
>> To: email@hidden
>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] is Apple nuts
>>
>> For Final Cut Pro X, couldn't you use the App Store Volume Purchase Program
>> for Business?
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/business/vpp/
>>
>> I don't see anything in there that requires you to purchase a minimum of 20
>> licenses, unless this program is only for iOS apps. Then you can purchase
>> using one account and then distribute activation codes, which is admittedly
>> messy, but wouldn't be as bad with less than 20 computers. You can also still
>> use deployment tools like ARD I think.
>>
>> For Lion, the licenses are cheap enough that you could probably get away with
>> getting a volume license with the minimum 20 seats anyway even if they aren't
>> all used. $600 is pretty cheap for a volume license of an OS.
>>
>> All these license changes are pretty new, so it may take a while to get all
>> the issues sorted out, but I would reach out to an Apple Business Sales rep
>> for options.
>>
>> On 7/21/11 1:51 PM, "Bracy, Jason T." <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> This is great news for us and a sign that Apple isn't nuts - they do
>>> have a plan! We run an Xsan and with the announcement of Thunderbolt
>>> and Promise announcing the SANlink Thunderbolt to Fibre adapter we for
>>> a brief moment thought that we had a way to replace our Mac Pros and
>>> use laptops for Video editing on the SAN. Then we realized that the
>>> SAN requires 2 Gigabit Ethernet ports and no one has yet announced a
>>> Thunderbolt to Gigabit ehternet adapter (all of the USB products are
>>> 100 megabit)
>>>
>>> The new display means that we can give our users a MacBook pro with a 27"
>>> Thunderbolt display and a Promise SANlink (once they ship) and finally
>>> get rid of the MacPros! And now with Xsan built into Lion we don't
>>> even have the $999/seat cost. If anyone has yet updated an Xsan
>>> Metadata controller to Lion let me know how it went...
>>>
>>> Now all Apple has to do is provide a way for a small workgroup (<20
>>> users) to upgrade to Lion and Final Cut Pro X and we are set.
>>> Currently the App Store is not an option for us and Apple only
>>> provides volume licensing for 20 seats or more.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> - -
>>>
>>> Jason Bracy | SAIC
>>> Systems Administrator | SAIC Creative
>>>
>>> Energy | Environment | National Security | Health | Critical
>>> Infrastructure
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: fed-talk-bounces+jason.t.bracy=email@hidden
>>> [mailto:fed-talk-bounces+jason.t.bracy=email@hidden] On
>>> Behalf Of Reese, Brian J Mr CTR DoD DMA
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:32 PM
>>> To: email@hidden
>>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] is Apple nuts
>>>
>>> For those who might not have closely followed the recent hardware
>>> announcements, its worth noting that the new Thunderbolt display acts
>>> as a docking station for macs with Thunderbolt ports. All you connect
>>> is the power cord and the Thunderbolt cord to the computer and it
>>> gives you the USB ports, Firewire 800 ports, Ethernet port, and
>>> daisychained Thunderbolt port on the back of the display. This is
>>> pretty handy for computers with limited built-in ports like the new
>>> MacBook Air. It also gives the new MacBook Air access to Firewire
>>> peripherals for the first time ever.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/21/11 12:51 PM, "Matthew Linton" <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My thought on the matter is that anywhere I'm likely to be using an
>>>> Ethernet adapter for a MacBook Air alongside more than one or two
>>>> other USB peripherals, I'm probably in a spot where a USB Hub
>>>> (remember
>>>> those?) makes sense too.
>>>>
>>>> ==========================
>>>> Matt Linton, GCIH
>>>> Lead Computer Security Official
>>>> NASA Ames Research Center
>>>> 650-380-4281 (mobile)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/21/11 8:33 AM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
>>>>> What surprised me on the Air was the ethernet adapter hogging up a
>>>>> USB port rather than having a port of its own. My Macbook Pro is
>>>>> fairly old (first gen Intel) but had its own ethernet port so I
>>>>> don't know when this trand started but using up a USB port where
>>>>> there aren't many of them seems...well...nuts. :o) At least it did
>>>>> at first. Then I realized there won't be many folks using Airs for
>>>>> business and most folks using them at home (as with the Ipad they're
>>>>> kinda sorta based on) don't use ethernet ports anyway, but have
>>>>> wireless LANs. At least that's what I'm ass-uming the thinking was.
>>>>> But then again, I like cashews.
>>>>>
>>>
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