Re: [Fed-Talk] Patching iLife in enterprise
Re: [Fed-Talk] Patching iLife in enterprise
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Patching iLife in enterprise
- From: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:10:43 +0000
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Patching iLife in enterprise
Here is what I have to say about Apple... they don;t have to change anything :) What they are doing works.. I am afraid we have to change how we work...
As people ridicule the app store, and ridicule the closed architecture of the iPhone... Apple can say (and has), "We're the most recognized brand on the planet and the number one mobile OS on tablets and phones... we should change........ why?"
Just my opinion. Apple doesn't have to do anything they don't want because what they are doing is working, and it's working better than anyone else has even been able to remotely accomplish. Sure Android has bigger market share... but look at 99% of the crap that runs Android.. Samsung is the ONLY viable hardware contender that I know of.. and Apple is handing Samsung their own ass in every court in the land.
Mike
On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Blackmon Jerry (Contractor) wrote:
> I continue to believe this is a MAJOR opportunity for a third party to come in and make a mint, but Tim Cook's Apple is not Steve Jobs' Apple. Perhaps now is the time for us to mount a concerted effort to compel Apple to change course.
>
> ---
> Jerry Blackmon <email@hidden>
> Engraving Support: Mac Specialist
> Senior Systems Administrator, OITO
>
> "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change. The realist adjusts the sails." -- William Arthur Ward
>
> From: "Marcus, Allan B" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:14:05 -0400
> To: "email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Patching iLife in enterprise
>
> I'll restate. Apple doesn't do Mac design (at all, it appears) with the enterprise in mind.
>
> Ditto what Derek and Jeffrey said. I'm not talking about interop with Windows. I'm talking about the ability to manage thousands of Macs. Simple stuff like imaging new machines. I can understand how that can be complicated on Windows, but Apple owns the hardware and the software. How hard is it to have a universal image?
>
> Also, no server hardware? OK, fine. Let OS X server run on other enterprise grade server hardware. How hard is that? Just charge us for us. I'd pay $500, possibly even $1000 per license.
>
> I could go on, but I'm preaschin' to choir here.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Allan Marcus
> 505-667-5666
> email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>
>
> From: "Link, Peter R." <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:01:55 -0700
> To: "email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
> Cc: Allan Marcus <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>, "email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Patching iLife in enterprise
>
> Let's look at this issue a little differently. Apple doesn't hate the enterprise, they're just agnostic towards it. Apple produces hardware and software products for "people" without regard to who they are or where they work. If you want to call these people "consumers," that fine.
>
> When people talk about the enterprise, what they are really saying is compatibility with an ancient Windows infrastructure. Apple is not required to adapt of convert their products to work in this infrastructure. Does this mean these same "consumers" have to magically transform into a different person, maybe some kind of robot, who is programmed to do things one way with one type of equipment? Maybe, just look at assembly line workers. Of course these people are being replaced by robots because they don't need to take coffee breaks.
>
> What I see happening is consumer infiltration into the robot enterprise world, attempting to bring back creativity to the historically rigid, single-minded (Windows) enterprise anti-world. The government installations fit into this model perfectly. Line up a gazillion Windows PCs with 15" CRT monitors all configured exactly the same with people performing exactly the same task or sequential tasks and you have the "perfect" government installation. Someone takes a day off and you're covered, no problem.
>
> This isn't Apple's idea of the world and I hope the infiltration of Apple products will help change the iRobot-Windows-enterprise world into something real people can be a part of instead of just being a tool.
>
> Have a good weekend, enjoy life, have fun upgrading your Mac and iOS devices to iCloud.
>
> ---
> consumer; a person who purchases goods and services for personal use.
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Marcus, Allan B <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
> Can't. Apple hates the enterprise. Shawn doesn't (we like Shawn), but
> someone in Apple that makes decisions doesn't care. Apple has no internal
> IT management of computers, so I don't think they think anyone else needs
> that. Self-service.
> I've been told Apple is a consumer hardware company. Any Enterprise
> support is purely co-incidental ;)
>
> Jeff
>
> On 10/13/11 10:51 AM, "Kendall, Timothy P." <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>
> All,
> In Apple Knowledge base article:
> http://support.apple.com/kb/PH2509?viewlocale=en_US
>
> There is this line:
>
> If you purchased iPhoto in the Mac App Store, or if iPhoto was
> preinstalled on your computer along with Mac OS X v10.7 Lion or later,
> updates don¹t appear in Software Update. Check for updates in the Mac App
> Store.
>
> How people getting around this on deploying new Macs?
>
> Thank you, Tim
>
> Tim Kendall
> System Administrator
> Materials Science Division (MSD)
> Argonne National Laboratory
> work 630-252-6689
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>
> Full text of Apple Knowledge base article:
>
>
> By default, iPhoto automatically notifies you when software updates are
> available.
>
> If you purchased iPhoto in the Mac App Store, or if iPhoto was
> preinstalled on your computer along with Mac OS X v10.7 Lion or later, an
> update notification is displayed on the App Store icon in the Dock.
>
> If you installed iPhoto from the iLife ¹11 DVD, or if iPhoto was
> preinstalled on your computer along with Mac OS X v10.6.8 Snow Leopard or
> earlier, iPhoto periodically checks for updates when you open iPhoto and
> notifies you if an update is available. If you don¹t want iPhoto to
> automatically check for updates, you can turn off automatic notifications
> in iPhoto preferences.
>
> You can also check for updates manually.
>
> To check for updates manually in the Mac App Store (if you purchased
> iPhoto in the Mac App Store, or if iPhoto and Mac OS X v10.7 Lion or
> later were preinstalled):
>
> Open the Mac App Store and click Updates in the toolbar.
>
> If an iPhoto update is available, it appears in the Mac App Store window.
>
> To check for updates manually using Software Update (if you installed
> iPhoto from the iLife ¹11 DVD, or if iPhoto and Mac OS X v10.6.8 Snow
> Leopard or earlier were preinstalled):
>
> Choose Apple Menu > Software Update.
>
> If an iPhoto update is available, it appears in the Software Update
> window.
>
> If you purchased iPhoto in the Mac App Store, or if iPhoto was
> preinstalled on your computer along with Mac OS X v10.7 Lion or later,
> updates don¹t appear in Software Update. Check for updates in the Mac App
> Store.
>
> To turn off automatic notifications (if you installed iPhoto from the
> iLife ¹11 DVD, or if iPhoto and Mac OS X v10.6.8 Snow Leopard or earlier
> were preinstalled):
>
> 1. In iPhoto, choose iPhoto > Preferences, and then click General.
>
> 2. Deselect ³Check for iPhoto updates automatically.²
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