On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ) wrote:
I would venture to say Steve's last project was the 4 that he was actively involved in at the design level... For all intents and purposes the 4S is a 5...
I disagree. The 3Gs came between the 3G and the "4". I am willing to bet there is a 5. Not what you are saying, but let's not cross the streams.
The 4S is a better phone than my 4. I wouldn't say "much better" but, Siri, and the speed is very nice. Also the camera. I've taken some great shots with it this weekend.
it's a rework of the internal components, it has a new OS... the iPhone 4 Design was so perfect why change it? It is a new phone literally... just looks the same. It's still the only true glass phone I know of... it still has the best display... the things I had seen about the iPhone 5 I did not like (aluminum back, plastic, etc)...
Agree. Although, go back and dig out your Original iPhone. Hold it. Feels great. Wouldn't mind them returning to that kinda design. But they won't. It'll be better. Jony Ive doesn't settle for "second best", or "old"
In regards to Siri... when it works, it works great, but today, again, "Sorry, I cannot connect to the network". "sorry, I still cannot connect to the network," I even screen shotted all of the "i cant connect to network" messages on the screen.
Wonder if you are having a network problem. Saturation in your area, or maybe through Wifi, it can't connect..? It's only happened once to me.
The siri technology itself is amazing, the fact it can never connect is another....
Well, it's not affecting everyone, so let's not blanket the conversation with that.
And beta... beta is the buzz word companies like to use now so when crap doesn't work, they can say "well... it IS a beta!" It's an easy way to "well we never promised it would work."
Agreed, I hate the word beta. I take beta in this case to mean "Siri is going to expand and include new services and understand language better and more languages over time."
the way Siri works is basically a microphone.. that's it... you talk, it sends your voice to Apple Siri servers.. the servers do the work, then send back the commands to your phone. There is no magic on the phone that makes it happen.
We don't know that. There may be a processing chip or something in there. Don't pull up teardowns and what not to try and prove me wrong. Just saying. Maybe they thought the speed of Siri was too slow on the iPhone4...
Siri WAS on the app store..
Yeah, but it didn't talk to you. It was visual. And it didn't integrate with the phone. It integrated with the CLOUD. You couldn't tell Siri to play a song, or dial a number. You could ask it to remind you of things, but not through a built in app, it did it through a service in the cloud. But it was an Amazing App. One thing it did that I miss was send Tweets.
the iPhone 4 was more than capable of handling it.
We don't know that.
Apple killed Siri, said you need a 4S... and because it is a very cool feature, EVERYBODY that has it is using it to show off. It is useful for somethings (texting while driving)...
Yup, great use case.
and everything apple does (except FaceTime) goes mainstream because Apple knows how to implement things... It is cool... but the beauty of text messaging is the privacy multi-tasking factor. If you're in a meeting, I cannot see you launching Siri to send a text message to your friend across the table talking about the guy at the end of the table with the terrible breath. Texting is attractive because it's private... with a text message I can look engaged, communicate with whoever I want, and nobody is to the wiser... and as your memory gets bad as you get older (myself included).. I can look back and remember what exactly was said.
Well, then that's not a good use case. Of course you wouldn't use Siri to text the dude in the meeting with you. That's why you have a keyboard. That's a silly "complaint".
Android has had speech to text for years... it's the same thing as Siri (perhaps not as advanced AI)...
No. It's not. And Google's speech to text is lacking. Nuance's library is much better. (For those of you that don't know, Apple licenses Nuance (the Makers of "Dragon Naturally Speaking") to do Siri. Meaning you can use all of Dragon's punctuation libraries as well. You can say comma, period, new line, etc)
but anyone with an Android phone can push a button and say "Find McDonald" it will launch google maps, show you the closest ones and then guide you there.... sure it won't come back and have the pretty Siri voice, but it's the same mechanism.
Disagree. Siri goes far beyond what Android's could do.
Having said that, anytime Apple comes out with a product I get it when it is an iOS device... the computers about every other year... so when the 5 comes out.. I'll still have it...
I believe in telling things how they are... despite I love Apple... the iPhone is the best phone there is... it has issues, but far less than any other phone.. and Siri is amazing, it is just being overloaded which is to be expected... iCloud has held up very well since Friday... I just wish it would revert back to local voice command when Siri is not available...
Agree.
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