Re: [Fed-Talk] OS on new hardware?
Re: [Fed-Talk] OS on new hardware?
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] OS on new hardware?
- From: "Blackmon Jerry (Contractor)" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:09:23 -0400
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- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] OS on new hardware?
No offense taken, that was an idle comment not intended to be a serious suggestion. I understand the constraints of putting hot processors into configurations for which they were not designed, I'm just saying that Apple has a history of thinking outside the box and the Mac Pro is the biggest box they make :)
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Jerry Blackmon <email@hidden>
Engraving Support: Mac Specialist
Senior Systems Administrator, OITO
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From: "Lamb, John (NIH/NHLBI) [C]" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:04:14 -0400
To: Mac Federal <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] OS on new hardware?
All,
I think I just had a "doesn't have aspergers, but I play someone who does
on TV" moment - I meant no disrespect to Mr. Blackmon. It just occurred to
me that the physical constraints of the mini were not suited to a
processor that demands that much cooling (much less 2 of them). If Mr.
Blackmon was wondering about what the arstechnica forums refer to an xMac
(think Mac pro in a smaller form factor, with various compromises.), that
is certainly possible (but unlikely for reasons listed below).
The bigger issue is that the i7 does much of what you'd expect a xeon to
be able to do (and certain xeons on certain motherboards are
interchangable with i7s), but with an eye toward power management.
The xeons are meant to be stuffed in a box/rack somewhere, run at full
load for 5 years and not fail. The i7s are not over engineered like that,
but provide much of the same power on an intermittent basis.
So, a Mac Mini with an i7 is much of what Mr. Blackmon is asking for.
Perhaps not specifically, but in effect. And it makes an "xMac" redundant.
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John Lamb
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On 9/20/11 9:49 AM, "Lamb, John (NIH/NHLBI) [C]" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
wrote:
I have a Mac Pro at home. The heatsink is bigger than a Mini. So... that
perhaps.
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John Lamb
Desktop Support Technician (Contractor)
Customer Service Branch
Center for Biomedical Informatics (CBI)
National Heart Lung and Blood Institute, NIH
10 Center Drive - Building 10 6C103
Bethesda, MD 20814
Telephone (240) 751-6562 | Email: email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>
NHLBI Computer Services: http://insider.nhlbi.nih.gov/computer
On 9/20/11 9:25 AM, "Blackmon Jerry (Contractor)" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
wrote:
I was talking to someone about this yesterday. What's to stop Apple from
putting Xeon chips in a mini and calling it a day? Thunderbolt solves
expansion problems. Hell, the new i5 minis alone are pretty powerful.
I've got one effortlessly handling streaming video that choked a Core 2.
Processor load is negligible where the Core 2 was running at 98% and
stuttering.
Trucks. I handle H I G H end data processing requirements. The Mac Pros
we currently have are overkill.
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Jerry Blackmon <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
Engraving Support: Mac Specialist
Senior Systems Administrator, OITO
"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to
change. The realist adjusts the sails." -- William Arthur Ward
From: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)"
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Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:43:29 -0400
To: Todd Heberlein
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Cc: "email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden><mailto:email@hidden>"
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Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] OS on new hardware?
I predict mac pro goes way of Xserve.
Mac pro is too much power for the average Facebook/twitter user and that
seems to be apples new target. IMHO.
They dumped optical media why keep a machine around that has not one but
two optical drives?
Sent from my iPhone 4
On Sep 19, 2011, at 5:13 PM, "Todd Heberlein"
<email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden><mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
I picked up a new Mac Pro at an Apple Store today and was surprised to
find that it had Snow Leopard (10.6.4) on it and not Lion. Is Apple not
shipping Lion on the latest Mac Pros, or do I just have an exceptionally
old computer that had been sitting around in the back room? :-\
And if anyone has a new Mac Pro that came with Lion, how was the
re-install media shipped? On a little USB stick?
Todd
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