Re: [Fed-Talk] OS on new hardware?
Re: [Fed-Talk] OS on new hardware?
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] OS on new hardware?
- From: "Link, Peter R." <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:46:12 -0700
- Acceptlanguage: en-US
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] OS on new hardware?
I was joking about the OSHA permit but not that much. We do have lifting restrictions at work and 40+ lbs might require two people (remember the old CRT monitors, those required two people to move them) but it definitely requires a hand truck to move the box while a laptop or mini doesn't, unless you get a pallet full of them. As far as the military personnel being exempt from federal regulations meant to protect their health, that disturbs me.
On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:36 AM, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote:
> Mr. Link, et alia:
>
> Indeed I am curious as to what rule or regulation you are referring
> relative to an OSHA permit (I don't doubt your correctness, just
> curious to understand it better)? I am of course curious if military
> commands would be required to submit to such a regulatory requirement,
> and if so, would military be exempt (if they did the lifting) or not?
>
> However, the idea of a half height footprint would not necessarily
> stand to enunciate a weight reduction "out of the box". I suppose
> using a government contractor to install the box would expel the
> requisite of having an OSHA permit, no?
>
> All that being the case, Dell has a methodology for being able to rack
> mount some of their normally vertical standing servers. I would hope
> that Apple might otherwise consider marketing such a solution so that
> Mac Pro installations could be configured in such a manner.
>
> I recently began looking to find some keyboard/video/mouse over
> LAN/WAN boxes that are compatible with MacOS (this was last week), but
> have not yet identified anything in particular as being Mac
> hardware/software compliant as yet (I am sure there are platforms that
> are). I had intended on using this with my MacMini and/or other future
> hardware that will replace the MacMini.
>
> Anyone aware of a Mac supported keyboard/mouse/video remote LAN/WAN
> controller?
>
>
> V/R,
>
> IT2 Stuart B. Tener
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>
> Quoting "Link, Peter R." <email@hidden>:
>
>> Stuart,
>> Interesting comments. I just read a comment on the Macworld site
>> about Final Cut Pro 10.0.1:
>>
>> “The professional [editor] is critical to Apple, and it’s a customer
>> we don’t want to lose,” said Richard Townhill, Apple’s director of
>> pro video product marketing, in a conversation with Macworld.
>>
>> I guess Apple sees the professional market differently than the
>> enterprise market. I totally understand the requirement for
>> configurability in the professional video market and that's
>> something that has been lacking (except for RAM and disks) in all
>> Apple products except for the Mac Pro. I hope Apple continues to
>> build a professional Mac but after seeing the XServe and XServe RAID
>> disappear, I can't say the word "never" to anything Apple has done.
>> I would like to see a study on how much configuration is actually
>> done on a Mac Pro; how many slots are filled (disks and PCI cards),
>> etc. This would help myself and others understand whether Apple
>> could produce a half-height Mac Pro for the professional and
>> enterprise user. Why a half-height? Because a fully-loaded Mac Pro
>> requires a OSHA permit to lift it (not really kidding, Apple specs
>> the 8-core at 41 lbs).
>>
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 7:53 AM, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote:
>>
>>> ALCON,
>>>
>>> My understanding is (from someone whom had a similar experience) is
>>> that you can either go the redemption code route or schedule a genius
>>> appointment and request that the bar performs a full and complete
>>> install for you.
>>>
>>> However, what I also heard was that the Apple Care folks will ship out
>>> a USB device with Lion thereupon in certain instances. This maybe just
>>> such a qualifying instance, though I'd suspect a redemption code would
>>> be requisite for the appointment of the MacOS Lion "server upgrade"
>>> via the App Store.
>>>
>>> Regarding the "Mac Pro" (which someone seemed to confused with a
>>> Macbook Pro in earlier chatter on the list), will likely not go the
>>> way of the Xserve. The reason is that from my experiences living in
>>> Beverly Hills for a number of years is that the Mac Pro is used
>>> extensively in the video editing market and most video editing
>>> facilities in California have no issue writing a cheque for huge Mac
>>> Pro instantiations for such purposes. Lest we not forget the footprint
>>> of research users that use these machines.
>>>
>>> Lastly, while I personally own an iMac and a MacMini, the Mac Pro is
>>> the only truly configurable Mac and will likely be around for a long
>>> time to come. Will it always be in stock at the Apple Store? Maybe,
>>> maybe not...but built to order machines will exist for a long time. As
>>> a matter of fact I believe that the LOM capabilities in the Xserve are
>>> soon to come within the next generation of Mac Pros.
>>>
>>>
>>> V/R,
>>>
>>> IT2 Stuart B. Tener
>>> NORAD / US NORTHCOM HQ (Reserve ADT orders until 30 SEP)
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR, N3GWG (Extra), MROP
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>> Peter Link
>> Cyber Security Analyst
>> Cyber Security Program
>> Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
>> PO Box 808, L-315
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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