Shawn never talks directly about anything Apple is planning for the future (properly so) but I see his comments as giving a clear indication of Apple's future concerning Java. Apple is not going to pursue the continued operation of Java on OSX, that's up to
Oracle to provide it and users to install and use it. Reading into this, I see Apple ultimately dropping Java support the same way they dropped Flash on iOS. It's not a necessary application environment for OSX and actually conflicts with OSX's security model
(just like Flash). Shawn might reply saying I'm taking his comments too far but look at what's been happening with Java. Every time Java has a vulnerability, Apple is the one who takes the heat, not Oracle. Analysts, security experts, bloggers all point the
finger at Apple instead of where it belongs. Apple has every right to make sure it keeps its software clean and I see their change in how Java is delivered as being the first step in removing Java for OSX.
Of course, I need Java running on my work computer because we have applications that require it.
On Apr 17, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Shawn Geddis < email@hidden> wrote:
On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Joel Esler < email@hidden> wrote:
Shawn, I think the implied question was, when is Apple going to move past 6? Oracle is on 7 now.
I think Java should die in a glorious fire, but the question remains.
Joel,
I understood that and thought it was clear in my statement.
"Oracle owns and manages Java, not Apple."
Starting with Java 7, Oracle has taken over 100% responsibility for Java on OS X. Are people not aware of this ?
To answer your question specifically,
" when is Apple going to move past 6?"
.... Well, never, since Oracle controls all updates and distribution of Java 7 and later….
Peter Link
Cyber Security Analyst
Cyber Security Program
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
PO Box 808, L-315
Livermore, CA 94551-0808
The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect the views or position of the U.S. Department of Energy, Federal Government, National
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