Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Needs to Move to Kentucky
Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Needs to Move to Kentucky
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Needs to Move to Kentucky
- From: "Marcus, Allan B" <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 16:37:28 +0000
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Apple Needs to Move to Kentucky
Title: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Needs to Move to Kentucky
i thought IT was exempt from the Buy America Act.
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Thanks,
Allan Marcus
Chief IT Architect
Los Alamos National Laboratory
505-667-5666
-----Original Message-----
From: Edgell, Joe [
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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:23 AM Mountain Standard Time
To: Fed Talk
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Needs to Move to Kentucky
And given the Buy America Act that affects most federal agencies, it seems particularly relevant.
Joe
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> Behalf Of Villano, Paul A CIV USARMY TRADOC (US)
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:28
> To: Armstrong, William T CTR (US)
> Cc: Fed Talk
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Needs to Move to Kentucky
>
> As I understand it, the Fed-talk list is about issues dealing with the
> purchase, installation and maintenance of Apple products. Discussing
> business and manufacturing processes of those products would seem to me
> to be part of that process, and the employees chosen by those
> manufacturers (including rumors of their ill treatment in foreign
> countries) seems to be fair game.
>
> You're assuming that the initial outlay to set up elsewhere than Arizona
> would lead to less profit. I maintain that the good will of producing
> jobs where needed and thinking about people over process would, in the
> end, actually increase profit.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taylor Armstrong - NOAA Affiliate
> [mailto:email@hidden]
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:22 AM
> To: Villano, Paul A CIV USARMY TRADOC (US)
> Cc: Fed Talk
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Needs to Move to Kentucky
>
> Well, I'd ask 1st of all what this has to do with Fed-Talk, but also...
>
> Apple generally doesn't do a whole lot of "on-the-job" training for
> manufacturing. Manufacturing is typically handled through
> subcontractors, so Apple needs to put the jobs in places where there are
> already resources (educated workforce, plants, distribution centers,
> etc) in place. Beyond that, while I personally agree that it would be
> good, Apple's fiduciary obligation to shareholders is to maximize
> profits. If it is more profitable to manufacture in Arizona than
> Kentucky, then they are essentially obligated to do so.
>
> Taylor Armstrong
> Macintosh Administrator
> SID / NOS IMD
> 1305 East West Hwy Rm 9424
> Silver Spring, MD 20910
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>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Villano, Paul A CIV USARMY TRADOC (US)
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>
> No, my point isn't that they should just build in the US but that
> they should build in depressed areas in the US, such as Kentucky, and
> provide these people with on-the-job training kills to make them loyal
> and secure Apple employees.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Cerniuk [mailto:email@hidden]
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:11 AM
> To: Villano, Paul A CIV USARMY TRADOC (US)
> Cc: Fed Talk
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Needs to Move to Kentucky
>
>
>
> Tim Cook: Apple to pour $100M into U.S. Mac production | Apple -
> CNET News <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57557480-37/tim-cook-apple-
> to-pour-$100m-into-u.s-mac-production/>
>
>
> According to Cook, Apple is investing $100 million to
> produce Macs in the U.S
>
>
>
> Apple to build made-in-the-USA manufacturing plant in Arizona |
> Apple - CNET News <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57610796-37/apple-
> to-build-made-in-the-usa-manufacturing-plant-in-arizona/>
>
>
> "We are proud to expand our domestic manufacturing
> initiative with a new facility in Arizona, creating more than 2,000 jobs
> in engineering, manufacturing, and construction," Apple spokeswoman
> Kristin Huguet told CNET. "This new plant will make components for Apple
> products and it will run on 100 percent renewable energy from day one,
> as a result of the work we are doing with SRP to create green energy
> sources to power the facility."
>
>
>
> And of course, there are detractors who don't understand the nature
> of risk or the nature of tooling for a new product being an economical
> opportunity for a new assembly plant vs arbitrarily recreating tooling
> systems for an existing product...
>
> A US-made Mac Pro is a token gesture | Apple - CNET News
> <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57608792-37/a-us-made-mac-pro-is-a-
> token-gesture/>
>
>
>
> Apple, of course, could be gradually expanding the facility
> to handle more lines of Macs, and may even one day include iPhones and
> iPads into its production plans. This may just be a start of something
> bigger.
> Until then, this is little more than a glorified and
> expensive publicity stunt.
>
>
> But over all, I think you are getting your wish.
>
> --
> R/Wm.
>
> ph: 703.594.7616
>
>
> On 18-Nov-2013, at 7:17, Villano, Paul A CIV USARMY TRADOC (US)
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>
> One would think, as innovative as Apple is, that they'd set
> up manufacturing plants in these places in Kentucky, etc. where jobs are
> desperately needed instead of overseas.
>
>
http://www.kentucky.com/2013/11/16/2932837/50-years-of-
> night-in-eastern-kentucky.html
>
>
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