Re: [Fed-Talk] Security vulnerabilities addressed in Mav
Re: [Fed-Talk] Security vulnerabilities addressed in Mav
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Security vulnerabilities addressed in Mav
- From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 20:12:06 -0500
Apple, has NEVER in the entire lifetime of Mac OS X said anything about the EOL policy or schedule for OSes.
At one point, we took this to the SVP level. That didn't change anything.
I don't expect them to start now, but I'd be the first one to say I'd be happy if they broke from tradition.
- Dave
On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:19 PM, JEFFREY COMPTON <email@hidden> wrote:
> But all I'm asking for is a simple statement. I am not asking Apple to cater to the enterprise
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> If this turns out to be their new policy - that's fine. I will set the world record for rolling out a new OS in a Fed environment :)
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> Just give me a freaking Statement
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> How hard could that be?
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> I'm pretty sure at this point the entire Apple enterprise team is hiding in a hole somewhere
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:51 PM, William Cerniuk <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>> I guess I would have to ask - why would they want to be an "enterprise contender”?
>> Excellent question.
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>> Enterprise is roughly 10% of the entire market, consumer 90%. Government is roughly 10% of enterprise, thus 1% of entire market.
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>> As CEO of Apple, what percent of your efforts would you invest to capture, say 5% of 1% of the market? (0.05% of total market). Would that same investment in time, resources and advertising get more than 0.05% of the total market if applied to the consumer market?
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>> That has to be the short version the conversations in Cupertino. It could also be the “what were we thinking?” conversation in Redmond as Mr. Balmer was shown to his golden parachute.
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>> So to Apple folks here, Shawn, et al, thank you for your efforts now and in the future. The market potential certainly does not command your diligence but I, for one, personally appreciate it none the less.
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>> --
>> R/Wm.
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>> ph: 703.594.7616
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>> On 24-Oct-2013, at 15:10, Eric Eskam - QTGBBA <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:49 PM, John Oliver <email@hidden> wrote:
>>> If they want to be an enterprise contender, then they're going to have to change.
>>>
>>> I guess I would have to ask - why would they want to be an "enterprise contender"? it hasn't exactly come up roses for Microsoft in the long run. Yes, that's a gross oversimplification of many complex points but at the end of the day who's on top right now?
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>>> Now, I'm not disagreeing with your other points - even as a consumer I would love to get more disclosure from them on security related issues, but as soon as they become an "enterprise" player, especially in government, look at all the crap we start to heap on vendors. Some of it good, but is all of it really necessary? If I was Tim Cook I'd be looking at the demands of "enterprise" and be saying "No thanks". Which is probably why that's basically what they do.
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>>> To be fair, Apple doesn't completely ignore enterprise - but they certainly don't cater to the enterprise to the level the Wintel crowd does. Nor do I think it's sane to expect them to ever do so. They are first and foremost a consumer company - and anyone who argues it should be the other way around really needs to take a closer look at their financials vs. their competitors.
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