Re: [Fed-Talk] Best Alternative to Apple Mail that does S/MIME
Re: [Fed-Talk] Best Alternative to Apple Mail that does S/MIME
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Best Alternative to Apple Mail that does S/MIME
- From: "Henry B (Hank) Hotz, CISSP" <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:14:11 -0700
Excellent info. Thanks!
This discussion wouldn’t be complete without mentioning Outlook. I gather its overall bugginess is less than Apple Mail? Or just w.r.t. S/MIME?
Personal opinion: I hate having my UI cluttered up with calendar, phone book, todo list, and reminder stuff I don’t want, and won’t use. What was Tim Cook’s comment about a <something>-toaster? Apple got that right.
> On Apr 24, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Disiena, Ridley (MSFC-IS90)[EAST2] <email@hidden> wrote:
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> Outlook works pretty well now in the 2016 version. We had them add a feature to stop trying to decrypt large groups of emails at one. When they try decrypting many at once it caused a buffer clog and took forever if using keys on a token. They made a code change and published this KB:
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172627
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> Simple as turning it on via switch:
> defaults write com.microsoft.Outlook DisablePreviewForSMIME 1
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> It then decrypts emails one at a time when selected.
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> It is not on by default. They did not fix 2011, code base was too old. Builds before June 2016 did not have the option.
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> -Ridley
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> On 4/23/17, 10:16 AM, "Fed-talk on behalf of Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <fed-talk-bounces+ridley.disiena=email@hidden on behalf of email@hidden> wrote:
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> I'm not sure what problem(s) you're referring to. The current (of MacOS 10.12.4) Apple Mail seems to do S/MIME reasonably fine. In my experience, when a message is encrypted and signed, in most cases it will be shown as "Signed", other than that I'd say Apple fixed the email deal-breakers. Did I miss something important?
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> I also find Microsoft Outlook clunkier than Apple Mail, with a different set of bugs/issues - but flawless when dealing with S/MIME, far better and more configurable than Apple Mail. So at work I use MS Outlook, and at home - Apple Mail. Token-based S/MIME in both cases.
>
> Regards,
> Uri
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 23, 2017, at 02:51, Henry B (Hank) Hotz, CISSP <email@hidden> wrote:
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>> *sigh* Thanks.
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>>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 10:13 PM, William Cerniuk <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>> Unfortunately there is no other email that compares to Apple Mail. It may be exceptionally buggy but it is like crack as far as email is concerned, if for no other reason than the ability to sometimes integrate with "continuity" and the system.
>>>
>>> Apple Mail - definitely a Love-Hate abusive relationship. :-)
>>>
>>>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 02:31, Henry B (Hank) Hotz, CISSP <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>>> From Google, it sounds like the bugs with Apple Mail in this respect still haven’t been solved. What are people using instead these days?
>>>>
>>>> Personal email. email@hidden
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