November 2012 - Bluetooth-dev

iOS sample projects
by Christian Giordano 19 Nov '12

19 Nov '12

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Standard Services UUIDs
by Christian Giordano 19 Nov '12

19 Nov '12

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Re: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE
by Andras Kovi 18 Nov '12

18 Nov '12

Thanks, this is good to know. However, it seems to be weird that Apple allows external devices to access messages but not apps. But SPP connections still require MFi if I'm not mistaken. (Although Jeff (the thread creator) probably does not need it.) Thanks, Andras On 2012.11.18., at 21:59, Jim Thompson <jim(a)netgate.com> wrote: > You won't need MFI to implement MAP (or HFP, or any of the other BT profiles which Apple has implemented.) > > Existence proof: Metawatch, or any of the car / car stereo companies that implement HFP, MAP, etc. > > Not that I know anything about the subject…. > > Jim > > On Nov 18, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Andras Kovi <allprog(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> It may be useful to note that the MAP is a Bluetooth profile. It is not applicable for BLE operations if you are planning for that. AFAIK there is no approved profile or service for BLE that provides such functionality. >> >> To implement bluetooth services you need to enter the MFi program. For BLE you don't. >> >> Regards, >> Andras >> >> >> >> On 2012.11.18., at 14:32, Alexander Traud <alex(a)traud.de> wrote: >> >>>> The basic goal is to have an iOS app be able to do something when a new >>>> text message, email, or call comes in. >>> >>> Message-Access Profile (MAP) is about notifying a connected car-kit (or any >>> remote device) about a new message. Furthermore, the remote device can send >>> a new SMS via this API to the GSM network, for example. No iOS app involved. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/allprog%40gmail.com >>> >>> This email sent to allprog(a)gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/jim%40netgate.com >> >> This email sent to jim(a)netgate.com > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE
by Jim Thompson 18 Nov '12

18 Nov '12

You won't need MFI to implement MAP (or HFP, or any of the other BT profiles which Apple has implemented.) Existence proof: Metawatch, or any of the car / car stereo companies that implement HFP, MAP, etc. Not that I know anything about the subject…. Jim On Nov 18, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Andras Kovi <allprog(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It may be useful to note that the MAP is a Bluetooth profile. It is not applicable for BLE operations if you are planning for that. AFAIK there is no approved profile or service for BLE that provides such functionality. > > To implement bluetooth services you need to enter the MFi program. For BLE you don't. > > Regards, > Andras > > > > On 2012.11.18., at 14:32, Alexander Traud <alex(a)traud.de> wrote: > >>> The basic goal is to have an iOS app be able to do something when a new >>> text message, email, or call comes in. >> >> Message-Access Profile (MAP) is about notifying a connected car-kit (or any >> remote device) about a new message. Furthermore, the remote device can send >> a new SMS via this API to the GSM network, for example. No iOS app involved. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/allprog%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to allprog(a)gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/jim%40netgate.com > > This email sent to jim(a)netgate.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE
by Mark Davis 18 Nov '12

18 Nov '12

If you're considering a MFi Bluetooth implementation, though, you should also be aware that these accessories can only be manufactured by companies that have been granted a "MFi Manufacturing License" by Apple. As explained in the "Apple MFi Program Enrollment - Frequently Asked Questions" page (http://mfi.apple.com/faqs) only MFi Manufacturing Licensees can purchase production quantities of the critical "MFi Components", and only those companies will be able to submit those designs to Apple for certification. The faq also explains that Apple will only grant the "MFi Manufacturing License" to companies that own a high-volume manufacturing facility. Therefore, if you want to sell your new MFi Bluetooth product commercially, you'll have to work with one of the companies holding a MFi Manufacturing License. A list of these companies is available to licensed MFi developers. Regards Mark Davis ________________________________________ From: bluetooth-dev-bounces+markd=sctflash.com(a)lists.apple.com [bluetooth-dev-bounces+markd=sctflash.com(a)lists.apple.com] On Behalf Of Andras Kovi [allprog(a)gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:38 PM To: Alexander Traud Cc: Apple Bluetooth Subject: Re: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE It may be useful to note that the MAP is a Bluetooth profile. It is not applicable for BLE operations if you are planning for that. AFAIK there is no approved profile or service for BLE that provides such functionality. To implement bluetooth services you need to enter the MFi program. For BLE you don't. Regards, Andras On 2012.11.18., at 14:32, Alexander Traud <alex(a)traud.de> wrote: >> The basic goal is to have an iOS app be able to do something when a new >> text message, email, or call comes in. > > Message-Access Profile (MAP) is about notifying a connected car-kit (or any > remote device) about a new message. Furthermore, the remote device can send > a new SMS via this API to the GSM network, for example. No iOS app involved. > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/allprog%40gmail.com > > This email sent to allprog(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/markd%40sctflash.com This email sent to markd(a)sctflash.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE
by Andras Kovi 18 Nov '12

18 Nov '12

It may be useful to note that the MAP is a Bluetooth profile. It is not applicable for BLE operations if you are planning for that. AFAIK there is no approved profile or service for BLE that provides such functionality. To implement bluetooth services you need to enter the MFi program. For BLE you don't. Regards, Andras On 2012.11.18., at 14:32, Alexander Traud <alex(a)traud.de> wrote: >> The basic goal is to have an iOS app be able to do something when a new >> text message, email, or call comes in. > > Message-Access Profile (MAP) is about notifying a connected car-kit (or any > remote device) about a new message. Furthermore, the remote device can send > a new SMS via this API to the GSM network, for example. No iOS app involved. > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/allprog%40gmail.com > > This email sent to allprog(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE
by Alexander Traud 18 Nov '12

18 Nov '12

> The basic goal is to have an iOS app be able to do something when a new > text message, email, or call comes in. Message-Access Profile (MAP) is about notifying a connected car-kit (or any remote device) about a new message. Furthermore, the remote device can send a new SMS via this API to the GSM network, for example. No iOS app involved. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Programming Bluegiga BLED112 ?
by Alex Jungwirth 17 Nov '12

17 Nov '12

It sounds really complicated... I just need this modules for some positioning stuff. I may have the wrong product at a ll ? Is there anything outside i easy can configurate over my mac (or Parallels-PC), plug out from the USB, plug in into a usb hub and check with the iDevices ? :) Louis, i did read some docs and they warned me to include some USB-Stuff into the new firmware. That was the point i gave up configuring myself. Not because the costs (24 Euro for each dongle) and also not because the shipping costs (45 Euro) but i just don't understand what the docs mean. Greetings from Austria Alex Am 17.11.2012 um 18:20 schrieb Louis Mamakos <louie(a)transsys.com>: > The problem is that you must use a DFU loader to program the USB dongle, since the debug header is not available to be programmed with the TI debugger part. The usual state of affairs is that you load an image in the USB dongle that speaks the Bluegiga API over a USB-emulated serial channel. There is an API command you can issue which causes the BLED112 dongle to reset into DFU mode so that you can load new software. > > The BLED112 in it's usual state doesn't have anything "listening" on the USB connection such that you can use a DFU loader tool to put new software in the device. > > The tricky part is that if you want to use the BLED112 dongle standalone, this probably means that you want to run a BGscript on the device, have a GATT database defined, and all that good stuff. When you operate the software stack in that mode, then you don't have the serial channel available interpreting API commands. Now, your BGscript can itself invoke a script primitive to reset the device into DFU mode, but that means that you got your script "right" and you can cause it to be invoked "at the right time" in the event that you want to reload the firmware image. If you screw up the configuration (e.g., disabled the USB port, or problems with the script, etc.) then you better be happy with the last image you loaded. > > I did this, and I busted the dongle apart and soldered tiny wires to pads to use the TI debugger for one of my "bricked" devices. > > That's the long story; Bluegiga has an application note that describes one technique to configure the emulated USB serial device (make sure you configure it right!) as active. When traffic arrives on the emulated USB serial port, the script will receive it and conditionally reset the BLED112 USB dongle into DFU loader mode. > > Louis Mamakos > > > On Nov 17, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Gabriele Merlonghi <megabri(a)megabri.com> wrote: > >> Hi, I have the BLE112 not the USB model, but I have read all thecnical documentation about that. Your problem is that you don't know how flash the usb dongle ? >> >> Gabriele >> >> Sent from my smartphone, forgive typo. >> >> Il giorno 17/nov/2012, alle ore 03:48, Louis Mamakos <louie(a)transsys.com> ha scritto: >> >>> You should open a support ticket with Bluegiga about this. There is a way to do this, however, unless you are careful you can "brick" USB dongle when you enable the scripting mode. I speak with some experience, here :-) They have a document that describes the configuration required. >>> >>> Louis Mamakos >>> >>> >>> On Nov 16, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Alex Jungwirth <mobile(a)j-is.at> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all! >>>> >>>> I purchased some of these BLED112 USB Dongles i plan to use with my iDevices but struggling around with flashing the modules. >>>> >>>> The main thing is: I have no idea how to manage that the modules broadcast their UUID and RSSI without a computer connected (so only with an USB-Hub for electricity). >>>> >>>> >>>> Someone has already done and could assist me ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Regards from Austria >>>> Alex >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/louie%40transsys.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to louie(a)transsys.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/megabri%40megabri.com >>> >>> This email sent to megabri(a)megabri.com > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Programming Bluegiga BLED112 ?
by Louis Mamakos 17 Nov '12

17 Nov '12

The problem is that you must use a DFU loader to program the USB dongle, since the debug header is not available to be programmed with the TI debugger part. The usual state of affairs is that you load an image in the USB dongle that speaks the Bluegiga API over a USB-emulated serial channel. There is an API command you can issue which causes the BLED112 dongle to reset into DFU mode so that you can load new software. The BLED112 in it's usual state doesn't have anything "listening" on the USB connection such that you can use a DFU loader tool to put new software in the device. The tricky part is that if you want to use the BLED112 dongle standalone, this probably means that you want to run a BGscript on the device, have a GATT database defined, and all that good stuff. When you operate the software stack in that mode, then you don't have the serial channel available interpreting API commands. Now, your BGscript can itself invoke a script primitive to reset the device into DFU mode, but that means that you got your script "right" and you can cause it to be invoked "at the right time" in the event that you want to reload the firmware image. If you screw up the configuration (e.g., disabled the USB port, or problems with the script, etc.) then you better be happy with the last image you loaded. I did this, and I busted the dongle apart and soldered tiny wires to pads to use the TI debugger for one of my "bricked" devices. That's the long story; Bluegiga has an application note that describes one technique to configure the emulated USB serial device (make sure you configure it right!) as active. When traffic arrives on the emulated USB serial port, the script will receive it and conditionally reset the BLED112 USB dongle into DFU loader mode. Louis Mamakos On Nov 17, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Gabriele Merlonghi <megabri(a)megabri.com> wrote: > Hi, I have the BLE112 not the USB model, but I have read all thecnical documentation about that. Your problem is that you don't know how flash the usb dongle ? > > Gabriele > > Sent from my smartphone, forgive typo. > > Il giorno 17/nov/2012, alle ore 03:48, Louis Mamakos <louie(a)transsys.com> ha scritto: > >> You should open a support ticket with Bluegiga about this. There is a way to do this, however, unless you are careful you can "brick" USB dongle when you enable the scripting mode. I speak with some experience, here :-) They have a document that describes the configuration required. >> >> Louis Mamakos >> >> >> On Nov 16, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Alex Jungwirth <mobile(a)j-is.at> wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> I purchased some of these BLED112 USB Dongles i plan to use with my iDevices but struggling around with flashing the modules. >>> >>> The main thing is: I have no idea how to manage that the modules broadcast their UUID and RSSI without a computer connected (so only with an USB-Hub for electricity). >>> >>> >>> Someone has already done and could assist me ? >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Regards from Austria >>> Alex >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/louie%40transsys.com >>> >>> This email sent to louie(a)transsys.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/megabri%40megabri.com >> >> This email sent to megabri(a)megabri.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Programming Bluegiga BLED112 ?
by Michael Kroll 17 Nov '12

17 Nov '12

You have to use BLEGUI to bring the BLED112 in dfu mode and then flash the firmware using the commandline dfutool which is part of the bluegiga sdk. Regards, Dr. Michael Kroll. -------------------- Blog: http://www.mkroll.mobi Forum: http://forum.mkroll.mobi Twitter: @dr_m_kroll Sent from iPhone. On 17.11.2012, at 03:18, Alex Jungwirth <mobile(a)j-is.at> wrote: > Hi all! > > I purchased some of these BLED112 USB Dongles i plan to use with my iDevices but struggling around with flashing the modules. > > The main thing is: I have no idea how to manage that the modules broadcast their UUID and RSSI without a computer connected (so only with an USB-Hub for electricity). > > > Someone has already done and could assist me ? > > > Thanks > > Regards from Austria > Alex > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/m.kroll%40mac.com > > This email sent to m.kroll(a)mac.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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