January 2014 - Bluetooth-dev

Providing LE HID Services?
by Ringwald Matthias 12 Jan '14

12 Jan '14

Good day, The Bluetooth Design Guidelines lists LE HID as “.. implemented internally by iOS and shall not be published by third party iOS applications” Clearly, iOS supports LE HID for new input devices, but why would iOS provide iOS services? Does anybody know if that’s true and/or what HID service iOS would provide? I’d like to provide LE HID Services in the Peripheral role but if that documents is binding for the AppStore review, there’s no point in even prototyping it, right? Best regards, Matthias _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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CLBeaconRegion / Beacon / Timeout for onExit delegate
by Frederic Visticot 11 Jan '14

11 Jan '14

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Re: A backgrounded ios peripheral cannot be discovered by a backgrounded ios central?
by Andras Kovi 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

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Re: A backgrounded ios peripheral cannot be discovered by a backgrounded ios central?
by Darren Jones 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

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A backgrounded ios peripheral cannot be discovered by a backgrounded ios central?
by Eric Jensen 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

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Stress test of iOS7 BLE connection
by Qinghui Tang 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

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Re: Bluetooth-dev Digest, Vol 11, Issue 5
by Etan Kissling 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

MITM protection is only possible with PIN-entry or with OOB data of which OOB is not supported in the CoreBluetooth API. If you only perform a yes/no pairing you wont be able to access characteristics with encryption required. however, you will be able to resolve the private address that hanges every 10-15 mins and can reconnect to the iPhone later, even if it was wiped to factory defaults in between :-) > On 08.01.2014, at 16:17, "Ringwald Matthias" <mringwal(a)inf.ethz.ch> wrote: > > Hi Anand > > I’m not sure I understand you question but I was able to use Passkey bonding with my device and iOS 6 and 7 without joining the MfI program. I just configured my device to support bonding and MITM protection and that it provides a keyboard or a display. Then, if iOS tries to read an attribute that requires encryption or authentication, the bonding process would start. > > best > matthias > >> On 08.01.2014, at 14:38, Anand Singh <anandfortech(a)icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Are you sure that you do not need to support Bluetooth connection using MFi based program? As far as I know, only MFi based can support the authentication (i.e. when pairing, it asks for confirmation) >> >> Best, >> Anand >>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 10:00 PM, bluetooth-dev-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: >>> >>> Send Bluetooth-dev mailing list submissions to >>> bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/bluetooth-dev >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> bluetooth-dev-request(a)lists.apple.com >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> bluetooth-dev-owner(a)lists.apple.com >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Bluetooth-dev digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. BLE Authentication and Authorization (Ringwald Matthias) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 19:07:58 +0000 >>> From: Ringwald Matthias <mringwal(a)inf.ethz.ch> >>> To: "bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com" <bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: BLE Authentication and Authorization >>> Message-ID: <F4B0342E-36F6-4B63-9A3F-124E0FFF3973(a)inf.ethz.ch> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> As far as I know, iOS CoreBluetooth only supports Just Works bonding and therefor a connection cannot be authenticated. >>> Are authenticated connections possible on OS X? >>> >>> If not, what do others use to test BLE authentication and/or authorization? >>> >>> Best >>> Mathias >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bluetooth-dev mailing list >>> Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/bluetooth-dev >>> >>> End of Bluetooth-dev Digest, Vol 11, Issue 5 >>> ******************************************** >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/mringwal%40inf.ethz.ch >> >> This email sent to mringwal(a)inf.ethz.ch > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/kissling%40oberon.ch > > This email sent to kissling(a)oberon.ch _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Restoration
by Roland King 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

My experience is different. For the times I've filed a bug report which doesn't get marked as a dupe, I only get mail if engineering believes they have just released a version with a fix and want me to test it. I don't believe it's an automated mechanism at all, it's very directed. On 9 Jan, 2014, at 4:58 pm, Ringwald Matthias <mringwal(a)inf.ethz.ch> wrote: > Hi > > From my little experience with the Bug Reporting, I suspect that the “did the last update fix it” is n automated mechanism. After all, there might be cases where an update fixes something else although it wasn’t immediately clear that it was related. > > During the iOS 7 Betas, I’ve reported that the HID driver chokes when sending larger amounts of text (e.g. a view hundred characters when simulating a paste from our Type2Phone Mac AppStore app. While one or two updates reduced the loss rate, it wasn’t fixed. In the end, we had to settle for slowing input down to 10 characters/second to not get weird behavior on an iPhone 4. I’m still wondering why they weren’t able to fix it and process a burst of few hundred characters as it worked flawless on older iOS versions before. > > Best > Matthias > > On 09.01.2014, at 00:41, Darren Jones <djonesuk(a)me.com<mailto:djonesuk@me.com>> wrote: > > Thanks William, > > I wonder why they updated the bug report asking me to check it, if they didn't implement it. > > Of course I'll keep the list up to date, however I've just seen this which suggests these lists will be closing down next week!! http://lists.apple.com/archives/mpw-dev/2014/Jan/msg00000.html > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jan 2014, at 21:30, William Henderson <william.c.henderson(a)gmail.com<mailto:william.c.henderson@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi Darren, > I just tested this and I am not finding that peripheral restoration works after reboot. By the way, would keeping me (or the list) up to date on the status of this bug? I have filed a duplicate but I won’t see anything until it resolves so I won’t know when to test the betas. > > As a side note, you can use location services to work around this limitation for now. > > Thanks! > William > > > On January 8, 2014 at 12:53:05 PM, Darren Jones (djonesuk(a)me.com<mailto://djonesuk@me.com>) wrote: > > I filed a bug report about the fact that peripheral and central restoration didn't work after a reboot. (Possibly by design) > Today I got an update asking if it's now working in the latest beta. > > I haven't updated my device to the beta yet (and might not) so was wondering if anyone else could check and see if restoration now works after reboot? > > It would be great of it did. Could open a lot more possibilities. > > Thanatos > > Darren > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com<mailto:Bluetooth-dev@lists.apple.com>) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/william.c.henderson%4… > > This email sent to william.c.henderson(a)gmail.com<mailto:william.c.henderson@gmail.com> > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com<mailto:Bluetooth-dev@lists.apple.com>) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/mringwal%40inf.ethz.ch > > This email sent to mringwal(a)inf.ethz.ch<mailto:mringwal@inf.ethz.ch> > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/rols%40rols.org > > This email sent to rols(a)rols.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Restoration
by Ringwald Matthias 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

Hi >From my little experience with the Bug Reporting, I suspect that the “did the last update fix it” is n automated mechanism. After all, there might be cases where an update fixes something else although it wasn’t immediately clear that it was related. During the iOS 7 Betas, I’ve reported that the HID driver chokes when sending larger amounts of text (e.g. a view hundred characters when simulating a paste from our Type2Phone Mac AppStore app. While one or two updates reduced the loss rate, it wasn’t fixed. In the end, we had to settle for slowing input down to 10 characters/second to not get weird behavior on an iPhone 4. I’m still wondering why they weren’t able to fix it and process a burst of few hundred characters as it worked flawless on older iOS versions before. Best Matthias On 09.01.2014, at 00:41, Darren Jones <djonesuk(a)me.com<mailto:djonesuk@me.com>> wrote: Thanks William, I wonder why they updated the bug report asking me to check it, if they didn't implement it. Of course I'll keep the list up to date, however I've just seen this which suggests these lists will be closing down next week!! http://lists.apple.com/archives/mpw-dev/2014/Jan/msg00000.html Sent from my iPhone On 8 Jan 2014, at 21:30, William Henderson <william.c.henderson(a)gmail.com<mailto:william.c.henderson@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Darren, I just tested this and I am not finding that peripheral restoration works after reboot. By the way, would keeping me (or the list) up to date on the status of this bug? I have filed a duplicate but I won’t see anything until it resolves so I won’t know when to test the betas. As a side note, you can use location services to work around this limitation for now. Thanks! William On January 8, 2014 at 12:53:05 PM, Darren Jones (djonesuk(a)me.com<mailto://djonesuk@me.com>) wrote: I filed a bug report about the fact that peripheral and central restoration didn't work after a reboot. (Possibly by design) Today I got an update asking if it's now working in the latest beta. I haven't updated my device to the beta yet (and might not) so was wondering if anyone else could check and see if restoration now works after reboot? It would be great of it did. Could open a lot more possibilities. Thanatos Darren Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com<mailto:Bluetooth-dev@lists.apple.com>) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/william.c.henderson%4… This email sent to william.c.henderson(a)gmail.com<mailto:william.c.henderson@gmail.com> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com<mailto:Bluetooth-dev@lists.apple.com>) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/mringwal%40inf.ethz.ch This email sent to mringwal(a)inf.ethz.ch<mailto:mringwal@inf.ethz.ch> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Restoration
by Darren Jones 08 Jan '14

08 Jan '14

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