site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mac.com; s=04042017; t=1502215750; bh=dMiHbphaDu78dbOolDFIForoPGOy3dyBGlYKB78bkgw=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:Message-id:Content-type:MIME-version; b=umCRP+zWp86EBFouDWb9Ggx3cNazsZKlryi/aVXsAJT20ws+WKEN/Gmju8vGNw5qi Y/HzkryJfy3O+bcQe2blcj13B0W7LDTJDKXWW4F1p8Gs2jk4wqzqctbkFX74h4Z81u 8v7qYJNvHi2unOj7UJJZcevyloj4hQKj6lWmHO1MNZOfdTYc7zjntXtOKmUda1wLFv QuzXGdlKIZm4jf8lmH8HfjVuP0iMUjBBKlx7nb2lI/CrDwLHrWQq+f/W2nh7coXP+a u/KYxZcfcQgdBidMwoQ5NpB/NJ3GKlc3kb08LQdONx3/W9CCRxqGejGyWyqYOC10D8 W+l3qUM3KpWWw== On Aug 08, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Jeff Szuhay <jeff@szuhay.org> wrote: On Aug 8, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Steve Mills <sjmills@mac.com> wrote: It's a term that's part of the language, so use it. I know what language I'm typing in, so I'm not going to confuse [NSThing new] with "new CPlusPlusClass". Even if I did lose my mind and not understand what I'm typing, the compiler would point out my mistake. Completely agree. With me or with the message I replied to, but you didn't quote? When I see [foo new] I think C++. Why? That's not C++ syntax. I recently had a case where I needed alloc alone and init’ed the object later. Yes, and that's not a place where you'd use new, obviously. new is a handy shortcut, not a replacement for all version of alloc/init*. Sent from iCloud's ridiculous UI, so, sorry about the formatting _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/site_archiver%40lists.appl... This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com