Hi, I don't know the answer to your question, but why do you want the toolbar to always be visible? If it's just to make sure the commands are always available, then remember that according to the Aqua Human Interface Guidelines: Any item in a toolbar should also be available as a menu command. I actually broke that rule for my first toolbar, but I hadn't read the guidelines at the time. Also in the HIG: If your application uses toolbars as part of a window with other content, include a control in the windows title bar for showing and hiding the toolbar, as shown in Figure 7-16. You should also put commands for showing and hiding the toolbar in the View menu (see The View Menu (page 61)). Whether or not people think that Apple is not conforming to its own guidelines, we should still try to conform to them, for the sake of the users. I can completely understand that one, with an 800x600 screen I often need that bit of screen real-estate taken up by toolbars.

Hi list

I have a problem..

I have an app where I want the toolbar to be always visible....

Do you know if I can hide or disable the white "pill" button that

toggles the toolbar's visibility?

Angela Brett angela@kagi.com http://acronyms.co.nz/angela _______________________________________________ cocoa-dev mailing list | cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-dev Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.