site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=jQ7r3k0B2pXjusPq8IHz0YicFxbgJZZ2MsdKP9MgnB0=; b=jPHeBg8Y0f/AQKYkF6AFIR6RFn8AJK8uDl+m690DUD1s11bh1MWLQyFni2G+s8Py6x Jq/0pmpxnRW609aGcGxaOeCY0F3Xm8n/POCv8dxTfdMWVXQFI34kNW80aGk2BJbQr+j3 AqISR/Rz6vUMRJNTdX/iwSqbF3FZEz7loF8+6N9qD9mob2nu66LWM6TUshgJaVemPNKo Z6SS7SvOYlddTOOQTVD+89atdkcC2BSSBzlZja1/MJYTqEM9LbMNxtxxL+TD+pX3J+2W wnXwYF/BJqHzK/nkh2JmdhZ4NRFCo9XsEQkyaG52ZLQwA26ySQWlsr3AgyJ/Loonjl81 nWcQ== I've held off upgrading for the same reason. I wonder if it's something to do with a semantic difference between "is no longer supported" and "is no longer possible". Maybe what they really mean is "if it appears to work, great, but we can't guarantee it, and if it fails spectacularly, you're on your own"? Mark

On 28 Oct 2022, at 12:08 pm, Eyal Redler via Cocoa-dev <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:

Could be, but I just found in the xcode 14 release notes:

• Building for deployment to OS releases older than macOS 10.13, iOS 11, tvOS 11, and watchOS 4 is no longer supported. (92834476)

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode-release-notes/xcode-14-relea...

Yet I'm am able to do just that without an issue...

Eyal

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On 28 Oct 2022, at 13:54, Saagar Jha <saagar@saagarjha.com> wrote:

I believe Xcode 14 has the old macOS bits (with the new iOS SDK). Try 14.1?

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On Oct 28, 2022, at 03:51, Eyal Redler via Cocoa-dev <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:

I read somewhere (can't recall where) that xcode 14 will not support deployment target < macOS 10.13. I was bracing myself for having to somehow develop my app on two machines for a while or ditching my pre 10.13 users but after installing xcode 14 on my new M1 machine I found out that I can compile and build my app with minimum deployment target of 10.9 and could not find an issue when running it on 10.9.

I'm not sure what to make of it, did I misunderstand this, is it a fluke? Did Apple change their policy?

Eyal Redler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If Uri Geller bends spoons with divine powers, then he's doing it the hard way." --James Randi www.eyalredler.com

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