December 2011 - colorsync-users

Advice Needed: Upgrade of Eye-One Photo
by Jim Warthman 21 Dec '11

21 Dec '11

Hello, Quite some time ago I purchased a product bundle: the Eye-One Photo kit, with Eye-One Pro (REV B), the Eye-One Beamer, and various accessories. It also came with the Eye-One Display 2. The following options were enabled: 1. Monitor Profiling 2. RGB Output Profiling 3. CMYK Easy Output Profiling 4. Scanner Profiling 5. Projector Profiling 6. Digicam Profiling 7. Editor I never used all its features, so it was overkill for me. I primarily use it to profile displays and did a bit of Epson printer profiling. I might have use for the Beamer to profile a digital projector, but thus far I have not. I have no use for the scanner, CMYK, or camera profiling options. In any case, I'm now preparing to migrate to Lion, and I understand that none of the software in this package will run under Lion. X-Rite offers an upgrade option for $500: If you originally purchased i1Photo, i1Photo SG, i1Proof, i1XT, or i1XTreme – buy i1PublishUpgrade A to get full i1Publish Pro functionality. (Use your existing i1Pro, still keep your license flags for i1Match software, and get all the new software, features and components). I'd really rather not spend the $500 right now, and am interested in recommendations from this group. What do you think about i1Publish Pro, and how does it compare with other options? Thanks, Jim

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Colorsync Issue with MacBook Pro
by Marsha Fickas 21 Dec '11

21 Dec '11

MacBookPro, purchased 2007, version 10.4.11 (Tiger) 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Graphics/Displays: GeForce 8600M GT Advanced experience with Macintosh Note: ColorSync Profile First Aid Log (see below) Recently my MBPro display screen started randomly turning into a pale translucent blue, green, or red grid over my desktop. Rebooting normalizes it. Possibly related, my Foxfire browser says it can't upgrade higher due to Tiger, and Recently, the Parallels virtual machine, I created three years ago to run Windows on my MBPro, broke. The desktop freezes. Don't know if it is related ~ I must sort all this out as well. I've joined this group in the hope of learning why this happened and exploring fixes to the ColorSync problem. The utility showed up on my desktop a couple of weeks ago when this began, so, I've used it to attempt to repair profiles, but it doesn't or can't. I've researched on the Internet regarding incorrect profiles in the hope I could correct the tags myself. Did not come up with anything very helpful. Could this be happening because my system is getting older in tech terms? ColorSync may be broken or malfunctioning is what I understand. Should I reinstall my current OS X system? If so, I'll consider upgrading to Snow Leopard. I'm still with Tiger due to my Parallels set up and OS X upgrade negative reviews, but, me thinks, my MBPro's peanut gallery doth protest. I have automatic weekly BackUps and also use Disk Warrior when necessary. Thanks! Marsha *** ColorSync Profile First Aid Log ... Searching for profiles... Checking 1446 profiles... /Library/ColorSync/Profiles/150-Line (Pantone) Tag 'gamt': Number of input channels is not correct. Could not be fixed. Tag 'gamt': Number of output channels is not correct. Could not be fixed. /Library/ColorSync/Profiles/HEXNSID2.icm Tag 'A2B0': Required tag is not present. Could not be fixed. Tag 'A2B1': Required tag is not present. Could not be fixed. Tag 'A2B2': Required tag is not present. Could not be fixed. Tag 'gamt': Required tag is not present. Could not be fixed. Repair done - 0 out of 2 profiles fixed.

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Colorsync Issue with Macbook Pro
by Louis Dina 20 Dec '11

20 Dec '11

Sounds like general OS issues, need of routine maintenance, updating programs or OS, or something like that. You may wish to join this Mac User's Group for assistance. Lots of Mac geeks there with a lot of good computer knowledge, but they aren't as color and photo savvy as the colorsync group. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/ Another good site for general Mac maintenance guidance and direction: http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html This particular site has a very long-winded treatise on keeping your Mac humming. But, if you skip the top 90% of his article, he gives you the quickie version at the end, called *"Routine Maintenance In Under 10 Minutes!" * Lou > I've researched on the Internet regarding incorrect profiles in the hope I > = > could correct the tags myself. Did not come up with anything very helpful. > = > Could this be happening because my system is getting older in tech terms? > C= > olorSync may be broken or malfunctioning is what I understand. Should I > rei= > nstall my current OS X system? If so, I'll consider upgrading to Snow > Leopa= > rd. I'm still with Tiger due to my Parallels set up and OS X upgrade > negati= > ve reviews, but, me thinks, my MBPro's peanut gallery doth protest. > >

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Raw i1 LAB or LAB+Spectral values
by Walker Blackwell 18 Dec '11

18 Dec '11

Does anyone know if there is software out there than can output the streamed (all) i1 values from a strip read? I am particularly interested in a list of values ordered my luminance. I'm assuming the eye one sends a stream of data to normal xrite-esk software that parses that data into patches. Or does the EyeOne itself parse data before sending to the software? Your help would be most appreciated. All the best, Walker

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Suggestions for good RIP
by Vogel, Chris 16 Dec '11

16 Dec '11

I would appreciate some suggestions in finding a replacement software RIP for our Epson 4800 and 7800. We were using the RIP for two purposes: sending InDesign files for either color mock-ups for publications or for film positives for silkscreeening. In the past we¹ve been using the ColorBurst RIP, but once we upgraded to version 7.2, we lost our ability to send pages at custom sizes as well as tiling pages. ColorBurst support said that we should not have been able to do either one of these with the earlier versions so they couldn¹t help us. As an interim measure, we¹ve been using the AccuRip-Wide for film positives, but it would be preferable to have a RIP that would also work for color. We need to make sure that the RIP will accept native InDesign files, output rich blacks for film positives as well full-color, use custom page sizes that do not match the InDesign file page size, tile pages (we do many pages for exhibition graphics that are well over the size of the paper/film in the printer). I¹ve also been looking at brochures for the Epson Designer Edition Series, which come with a modified version of the EPI RIP, but I wasn¹t sure of the advantages of buying a RIP as part of the printer package or buying one separately. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks Chris

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Re: 9900 Printing issues
by Peter Figen 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

I've made some progress in this problem in the last week. After several emails to X-Rite tech support I was finally able to get ColorPort to operate my Spectrolino and save out the properly formatted files for i1Profiler. The new profiles are now usable in CS5 and do not have the cyan overprint that the Gretag profiles were showing. That's the good news. The average news is that, while the profiles are very good, they're no better than the profiles I was making in ProfileMaker, and in fact, show a slight tilt toward magenta in a blue sky as compared to the Gretag. Other than that, the renditions are so similar that you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference. There may be images I have not printed yet that will prove otherwise and there well may be some advantage on some matte papers, something I have not gotten around to yet. The really weird thing about these new profiles, and they were generated with the new v1.2.0 Profiler, is that that they absolutely will not work with printing out of CS3, which I did to see if the new profiles would somehow get around the dark print bug. I'm on 10.6.8 with the latest drivers downloaded from Epson and installed after completely cleaning out the Print &Fax setup. The prints made with CS3 and these new i1 Profiler profiles look like they are about ten stops dark. You can barely see any detail in the print or in the on screen preview. I sent screen shots of the convert to profile dialog along with the profile to X-Rite. Should be interesting. I do feel like I'm using an early beta program that has hidden surprises around every corner. Peter Figen > >> Second have you contacted x-rite, because as I have mentioned before, profiles from i1Profiler beta had this problem and profiles from the released version do not. Someone somewhere knows what changes were made. > > [regarding cyan tint in non-image areas using X-Rite profiles / OS 10.6 / Photoshop / Epson Drivers] > > I contacted UK X-Rite and they claimed to be unaware of the problem -- apart from an issue with V4 profiles. They said that they'd make enquiries but, as this was an old product, they recommended upgrading. Have heard nothing since. > > I also contacted US web support. Again they claimed to be unaware of the problem (outside of V4 profiles) although they could vaguely recall an instance of a Dutch language version of the Mac OS which exhibited a similar problem. They offered to take a look at the profile and make me a new one using i1Profiler using the original data. > > Don't think that it's worth pursuing any further. If anybody at X-Rite knows why their profiles don't work properly with 10.6, CS4/5 and the Epson print drivers they are keeping quiet about it :( > > -- > Martin Orpen > Idea Digital Imaging Ltd

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Re: Epson 9900 printing issues
by Peter Figen 01 Dec '11

01 Dec '11

I've recently run into problems similar to Martin's while printing to an Epson 9900. I've had no problems with print sizing or 44 inch wide prints, but I have run into this weird cyanish mist overprint issue. When I upgraded to Snow Leopard a couple of months ago, I started seeing what Joe Holmes calls one of the "dark bugs" that can infect the Epson/Apple/Adobe system when printing from CS3. CS3 had always been my most reliable way of printing from Ps through the Epson driver and had never given me the problems I had experienced in CS4 or the horrible interface "improvements" of CS5. In order to get a project printed on time, I started printing from CS5, letting Ps manage the color and overall, the prints were perfect. At least until I noticed the slight cyanish overprint that was only outside of the actual image area, occupying a band in the white border on the top and bottom of the frame. Everything I read online pointed to version 4 ICC profiles and although I have never made those, I double checked the preferences in ProfileMaker 5.10 and they were still at version 2. After a conversation with Joe Holmes, I tried printing using Epson's Seiko profiles that were made in Japan, and also printing using the Gretag profiles printing through the Adobe Color Print Utility, and neither of those two options resulted in the overprint. I did not experience any of the bugs in the Adobe Utility that Joe has experienced, but printing through that adds needless steps to the process which are a pain in the ass when you've got a huge print job to get out the door. And I did completely wipe all drivers from the print center and reinstall the latest Epson drivers downloaded from Epson's site. Of course, printing black and white using Advanced Black and White has no overprint either. Whatever is causing this seems to be triggered by some interaction between whatever is in Snow Leopard and something in the Gretag profiles. That's as far as I've gotten in solving this, and no one seems to have any sort of idea or explanation - not my x-rite dealer, not Joe Holmes, not the folks I spoke to at Chromix. Peter Figen

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