October 2013 - colorsync-users

Soft Proofing with White Border
by Ken Fleisher 20 Nov '13

20 Nov '13

It is recommended that when you soft proof an image on screen compared to a print on white paper (or predicting the print on white paper), that you have a minimum 1" white border surrounding the image on screen. Does anyone know of a good link to a (preferably) non-profit web site that explains in plain English why this is necessary? I need to supply a good reference for it and the link I had been using has gone dead. Thanks! Ken Fleisher

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calibrating MBPr display
by Armand Rosenberg 31 Oct '13

31 Oct '13

Sorry if this topic was covered recently: Would someone who has calibrated a MacBook Pro with Retina display please share the experience? What software/hardware did you use, and how did it turn out? TIA. Armand

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Re: calibrating MBPr display
by John Lund 31 Oct '13

31 Oct '13

Hello Armand, OK, I can jump in here - yes, I have calibrated mine successfully with i1 Profiler & an i1Pro2 (spectro). No issues. Of course even though the Retina display is nice, it's not going to match up well with a quality external display for critical color editing. John JWL Images Emeryville, CA On Oct 31, 2013, at 12:00 PM, colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:00:51 -0400 > From: Armand Rosenberg <armand.rosenberg(a)nrl.navy.mil> > To: colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > Subject: calibrating MBPr display > Message-ID: <527270A3.2080807(a)nrl.navy.mil> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sorry if this topic was covered recently: > > Would someone who has calibrated a MacBook Pro with Retina display > please share the experience? What software/hardware did you use, and how > did it turn out? > > TIA. > Armand > >

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Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben Goren)
by Spinnaker Photo Imaging Center 29 Oct '13

29 Oct '13

David B Miller, Pharm. D. member Millers' Photography L.L.C. dba Spinnaker Photo Imaging Center Bellingham, WA www.spinnakerphotoimagingcenter.com 360 739 2826 On Oct 26, 2013, at 1:07 PM, José Ángel Bueno García <jbueno61(a)gmail.com> wrote: > IPI?, Image Permanence Institute? Independent Photo Imagers. I am a retired member. Many labs and studios together, help each other.

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GMG ColorProof Users
by Martin Orpen 29 Oct '13

29 Oct '13

Any UK or European GMG users fancy swapping a few emails about the cost of Software Upgrade Contracts (SUCs)? I’d like to compare quotes and see what others think of the massive year-on-year price increases. Contact me off-list please. -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd

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Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 10, Issue 223
by Thomas Houser 28 Oct '13

28 Oct '13

unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com To: colorsync-users <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 11:05 am Subject: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 10, Issue 223 Send Colorsync-users mailing list submissions to colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com You can reach the person managing the list at colorsync-users-owner(a)lists.apple.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Colorsync-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben Goren) (Tyler Boley) 2. Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben Goren) (Jos? ?ngel Bueno Garc?a) 3. Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben Goren) (Tyler Boley) 4. 10 bpc color possible now? (Dimitri Katsaros) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:33:10 -0700 From: Tyler Boley <tyler(a)tylerboley.com> To: colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben Goren) Message-ID: <526C18F6.60408(a)tylerboley.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed my concern would be the lack of any comparative longevity testing. At least ConeColor, Cave Paints, and a few others are up at aardenburg-imaging.com to take a look at. I recall AIS being around a long time, which speaks well for them, but there does seem to be little user reports or testing info out there. > > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 00:36:35 +0200 > From: Paul Schilliger <pschilliger(a)sunrise.ch> > To: "colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com" > <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben > Goren) > Message-ID: <526AF273.6070203(a)sunrise.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Gentlemen, thanks for your thoughts and warnings about using third party inks... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:09:10 +0000 From: Jos? ?ngel Bueno Garc?a <jbueno61(a)gmail.com> To: Tyler Boley <tyler(a)tylerboley.com> Cc: colorsync-users <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> Subject: Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben Goren) Message-ID: <CAD5o2t=4wBU4NnpvqrRCPSicEt-ZcUNcLLHq-YcWPTOd6VCVGQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Take a look at wilhelm-research. 2013/10/26 Tyler Boley <tyler(a)tylerboley.com> > my concern would be the lack of any comparative longevity testing. At > least ConeColor, Cave Paints, and a few others are up at > aardenburg-imaging.com to take a look at. I recall AIS being around a > long time, which speaks well for them, but there does seem to be little > user reports or testing info out there. > > >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 00:36:35 +0200 >> From: Paul Schilliger <pschilliger(a)sunrise.ch> >> To: "colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.**com <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com>" >> <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.**com<colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> >> > >> Subject: Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben >> Goren) >> Message-ID: <526AF273.6070203(a)sunrise.ch> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Gentlemen, thanks for your thoughts and warnings about using third party >> inks... >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Colorsync-users mailing list (Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.**com<Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> > ) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/**mailman/options/colorsync-** > users/jbueno61%40gmail.com<https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/jbueno61%40gmail.com> > > This email sent to jbueno61(a)gmail.com > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:43:26 -0700 From: Tyler Boley <tyler(a)tylerboley.com> To: Jos? ?ngel Bueno Garc?a <jbueno61(a)gmail.com> Cc: colorsync-users <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> Subject: Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben Goren) Message-ID: <526C296E.2030008(a)tylerboley.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sorry, that would not be my first choice for this kind of info, though often useful in addition to Aadenburg. I did go take a look just in case, as you recommend. I see no tests for AIS inks... Tyler Jos? ?ngel Bueno Garc?a wrote: > Take a look at wilhelm-research. > > > 2013/10/26 Tyler Boley <tyler(a)tylerboley.com > <mailto:tyler@tylerboley.com>> > > my concern would be the lack of any comparative longevity testing. > At least ConeColor, Cave Paints, and a few others are up at > aardenburg-imaging.com <http://aardenburg-imaging.com> to take a > look at. I recall AIS being around a long time, which speaks well > for them, but there does seem to be little user reports or testing > info out there. > > > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 00:36:35 +0200 > From: Paul Schilliger <pschilliger(a)sunrise.ch > <mailto:pschilliger@sunrise.ch>> > To: "colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>" > <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > <mailto:colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>> > Subject: Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike > Strickler) (Ben > Goren) > Message-ID: <526AF273.6070203(a)sunrise.ch > <mailto:526AF273.6070203@sunrise.ch>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Gentlemen, thanks for your thoughts and warnings about using > third party inks... > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Colorsync-users mailing list (Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > <mailto:Colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/jbueno61%40gmail.com > > This email sent to jbueno61(a)gmail.com <mailto:jbueno61@gmail.com> > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 22:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Katsaros <dcka(a)yahoo.com> To: "colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com" <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> Subject: 10 bpc color possible now? Message-ID: <1382851759.8660.YahooMailIosMobile(a)web140204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all, I was wondering if anyone knew if, with the release of Mavericks, we have a chance at 10-bit color. Thanks! Dimitri Katsaros <a href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad</a> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Colorsync-users mailing list Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users End of Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 10, Issue 223 ************************************************

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Are there any utility to compute Munsell notations from spectral values?
by Roger Breton 27 Oct '13

27 Oct '13

I'm in the process of measuring the PANTONE SkinTone Guide. The documentation clearly states that the patches are based on some Munsell-like notations, as is evidenced by the graphical representation of color space on the page "Skin Color Range", in the booklet. But I have difficulty with PANTONE's proprietary notation. Not that I want to criticize. They use something like PANTONE 1Y04 SP, 2R03 SP, 5Y03 SP and so on. I wish I could simply refer to them by plain-vanilla, good-old Munsell Hue Value Chroma notations? Is there a utility out there, by any chance, that would allow, say, to turn the spectral reflectances straight into Munsell notations? Comparing colors against each other using HVC is so much easier. (Didn't mean to criticize!) / Roger

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10 bpc color possible now?
by Dimitri Katsaros 27 Oct '13

27 Oct '13

Hey all, I was wondering if anyone knew if, with the release of Mavericks, we have a chance at 10-bit color. Thanks! Dimitri Katsaros <a href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad</a>

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Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben Goren)
by Tyler Boley 26 Oct '13

26 Oct '13

my concern would be the lack of any comparative longevity testing. At least ConeColor, Cave Paints, and a few others are up at aardenburg-imaging.com to take a look at. I recall AIS being around a long time, which speaks well for them, but there does seem to be little user reports or testing info out there. > > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 00:36:35 +0200 > From: Paul Schilliger <pschilliger(a)sunrise.ch> > To: "colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com" > <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben > Goren) > Message-ID: <526AF273.6070203(a)sunrise.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Gentlemen, thanks for your thoughts and warnings about using third party inks...

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Re: UltraMax K3 inks? (David Wollmann) (Mike Strickler) (Ben Goren)
by Paul Schilliger 26 Oct '13

26 Oct '13

Gentlemen, thanks for your thoughts and warnings about using third party inks. If I asked, it was because the Ultramax inks from American Ikjet Systems http://www.americaninkjetsystems2.com/ seemed to be a worthy product engeneered to high standards, and not just a cheap noname imitation of OEM inks. Well, that inks is not really cheap in fact. Another source in Germany sells inks under a similar brand name, at much lower cost. But after inquiries, that product has nothing to do with the american product. Since there seem to be no trusted reviews about the German market product, I might take your advice. Thanks again! Paul Schilliger

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