February 2013 - colorsync-users

Kodak Custom Color Tools ... reborn
by Colourfox 12 Feb '13

12 Feb '13

Hi color managers, I just want to step in the discussion as the last post from Jan-Peter refers to ColorLogic CoPrA. You can get the software and a demo key for evaluation purpose from our dealer network listed on the contact page: http://www.colorlogic.de/en/kontakt.php As we just recently have set up a subsidiary in the US called CrossXColor you may find information on their web page: http://www.crossxcolor.com and the dealers serving USA, Canada and the Americas: http://www.crossxcolor.com/#!contact/c21dx Best regards Dietmar ******************************* Dietmar Fuchs Product Manager ColorLogic GmbH

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Kodak Custom Color Tools
by Jim Mitchell 12 Feb '13

12 Feb '13

Kodak use to make a product Called Custom Color Tools. Does anyone know if they still make it and does it work with OS 10.8.2? And if not, does anyone know of a program that can be used to tune ICC profiles. I have ProfileMaker and Monaco but they're not working to well with new Mac OS. I've checkout i1Publish on demo mode and didn't see any tools for editing profiles like in ProfileMaker or Monaco. Thanks for the help. Jim

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Kodak Custom Color Tools at Chromix?
by Tim Vitale 11 Feb '13

11 Feb '13

Found this: <http://photoshopnews.com/2005/10/03/chromix-picks-up-kodak-colorflow/> I don't see any reference to it on the website. Was it incorporated into some other software or buried in the trash in favor of their tools? Steve Upton used to be on this listserv. Tim Vitale Art Conservator Oakland, CA

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RE: Kodak Custom Color Tools
by Millers' Photography L.L.C. 11 Feb '13

11 Feb '13

I thank you both for your responses. Sure helps me. The software I had used was not updated to X, so I couldn't use it. The idea of still having a G5 or G4 around is excellent. Cheers, and thanks Millers' Photography L.L.C. David B. Miller, Pharm. D., member 3809 Alabama Street Bellingham, WA 98226-4585 360-739-2826 Sent from my MacBook Pro 17inch, non-glare display

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Re: Kodak Custom Color Tools
by Millers' Photography L.L.C. 11 Feb '13

11 Feb '13

Well, I was taught, trained, had drilled into my brain, if the custom icc printer profile was not good, do not tweak it, but create another custom .icc profile. I don't know where that stands with any one else. I create my own custom .icc profiles for my NEC PA271w, about every three (3) days. And create my own custom .icc profile for my Epson Pro 9900. I also do this service for my clients. Sure, I have looked at some canned profiles. Tried one. In my humble opinion, there is nothing like my own home grown .icc profiles I have complete confidence in. I remember in my early days, (OS 8.6) there was a "what you see is what you get" by some software vender. Don't remember the name. It included a profile editor that was simple to use. Then I get the Datacolor, with Spyder, or whatever the name is/was, the master edition, and it included a complicated profile editor. Never ever did learn to use it. Still have this master suite and Spyder. Threw out the suction cups that came with it. Don't use it. Anyone want it? But here is what really challenged me in those days of OS 8.6. Different software providers' programs never gave the same profile, for the printer, monitor, or scanner. The worst offender in my experience was the Spyder stuff. Being way too naive, I had the illusion all programs would give the exact same results. Wrong! ! ! I currently use i1Profile and i1spectrophotometer. I don't want to get messed up with other software programs. Even as I write this, I have tried i1Profiler with my NEC PA271w, as well as the SpectraView II software. I just don't know if there is a difference in the profiles. However I do keep using the SpectraView II software for the NEC. An NEC technician told me, after I had purchase the SpectraView II software, not to purchase their software if I already have the i1Profiler. So, if someone is unhappy with the canned .icc profile, I would suggest using a custom profiling service. Cheers, Millers' Photography L.L.C. David B. Miller, Pharm. D., member 3809 Alabama Street Bellingham, WA 98226-4585 360-739-2826 Sent from my MacBook Pro 17inch

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Re: Kodak Custom Color Tools
by Niall Coady 11 Feb '13

11 Feb '13

Hi Jim, The product that most closely resembles the "Kodak plugin" in a product called "Colipri" from Colorlogic. This tool allows the user to edit "Device Link" conversions from within Photoshop using adjustment layers. I can vouch for the superior quality of this system. IMO the CL profiling technology is the best available in the market today. One word of warning, the technology is geared towards the more advanced user. That being said, anyone on this list should fit that category (-: http://www.colorlogic.de/en/colipri.php Take a look at their site. for more information you can contact them direct using this email address: dfuchs(a)colorlogic.de Dietmar, is an extremely helpful man who speaks English fluently and will help you a great deal. If you have any questions, I would be more than happy to help you out as well. _________ Note: I have seen comments on this thread that warn against profile editing. This does stand where .icc profiles are concerned, to a degree. Device Links; however, benefit greatly from such tweaking. _________ All the best, *********************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of MyPressXpert Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, you are advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify us (info(a)mypressxpert.com) and remove it from your system Niall Coady MyPressXpert Ltd. Colour Engineering for print & publishing Global House, 1 Ashley Ave Epsom, Surrey, KT18 5AD United Kingdom Mobile : +44 (0) 7740 940 459 Office : +44 (0) 1372 253 140 Email : ncoady(a)mypressxpert.com Web : Http://www.mypressxpert.com Skype : ncoady *********************************************************************************** This email message has been scanned for viruses. *********************************************************************************** ________________ >> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:51:40 +0000 >> From: Jim Mitchell <jim_mitchell(a)richards.com> >> >> Subject: Kodak Custom Color Tools >> >> Kodak use to make a product Called Custom Color Tools. Does anyone know if they still make it and does it work with OS 10.8.2? And if not, does anyone know of a program that can be used to tune ICC profiles. I have ProfileMaker and Monaco but they're not working to well with new Mac OS. I've checkout i1Publish on demo mode and didn't see any tools for editing profiles like in ProfileMaker or Monaco. >> Thanks for the help. >> Jim ________________

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Re: Kodak Custom Color Tools
by Ernst Dinkla 09 Feb '13

09 Feb '13

Well, I got the message that Datacolor has the rights that ColorVision used to have and Pantone is a passed station. Or something like that. Ernst Dinkla op de lei getypt Ernst Dinkla <E.Dinkla(a)onsneteindhoven.nl>schreef: >On 02/09/2013 01:52 AM, edmund ronald wrote: >>The problem is the Kodak patents >> have a strong refrigerant effect on anyone wanting to *sell* such software. >> >> Edmund > >Ask Apple, Google, Microsoft, Adobe, RIM, Samsung, HTC, Fujifilm, >Facebook, Amazon, and Shutterfly which Kodak patents would cover the >reintroduction of the Custom Color Tools. They must be in the deal that >was settled a month ago. > >ColorVision had a profile creator and editor plug-in for Photoshop that >was introduced 12 years ago I think, later than Kodak's editor. Profiler >Pro it was called, not that versatile as Kodak's tools though. They sold >it or the company to Pantone later on. > >Makes you wonder who could sue a new plug-in developer, Pantone or the >ones at the top. > >-- >Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla > >http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm >December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots. > _______________________________________________ >Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >Colorsync-users mailing list (Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com) >Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/e.dinkla%40onsnetei… > >This email sent to e.dinkla(a)onsneteindhoven.nl

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Kodak Custom Color Tools
by rudy harvey 09 Feb '13

09 Feb '13

Custom Color Tools is a great product. I still use it on a G4 Powermac with PS7 that I keep running just for that purpose. Just note that does not work on V4 profiles created in i1Profiler, you have to create a V2 profile if you want to edit it. As a Photoshop power user, the ability to use adjustment layers while editing a profile is fantastic. It work great for editing a profile just for soft proofing also, you gotta try that if you haven't. Rudy Harvey www.thecolorspace.com

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Re: Kodak Custom Color Tools
by Glenn Andrews 09 Feb '13

09 Feb '13

This was by far the nicest profile editor EVER! I did pester Chris Edge about reviving the product some time ago. He was very interested but couldn't demonstrate to the company that there would be sufficient demand for it as a stand-alone product. Maybe if everybody pings Chris on this........... Glenn Andrews

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Re: Kodak Custom Color Tools
by Ernst Dinkla 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

I had it running on 32bit XP and Photoshop CS 2. Still a system like that around but Adobe's activation policy on Photoshop is quite rigid when two harddiscs go belly up. Can only keep my current CS 5.5 running on one Windows system now. Kodak had it packed in larger color management suits too and they were still available not so long ago. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst Dinkla http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm December 2012: 500+ inkjet media paper white spectral plots.

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