March 2013 - colorsync-users

10.8.3 Finder Colour Management
by Martin Orpen 26 Mar '13

26 Mar '13

I've upgraded one of the retouching stations here from 10.6.8 to 10.8.3 and it's unusable! We've got Finder icons and Dock icons that are displaying as Wide Gamut RGB on screens that are profiled specifically for pre-press work. Maxing out icon colours might look impressive on an iPad but it's really annoying when you are trying to do real work on a Mac. Anybody else seeing this on profiled, wide gamut displays, or is it a preference setting I've missed? -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd

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DTP70 repair manual
by William Morse 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

Anyone know where to get the manual? I have a dtp70 on the fritz, access to another one for parts, but don't have a clue where to start. Not going to send it in to zrite for their $600 minimum repair. thanks, Bill Morse Wm. Morse Editions http://www.MorseEditions.com/

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Re: icc profile question..
by Peter Constable 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

Tyler- Have you tried dropping the profiles in the Adobe profiles directory (/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Color/Profiles/)? If my memory is correct, I don't believe ACE uses the Mac OS routines to parse this folder. _peter On Mar 25, 2013, at 3:00 PM, colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:55:16 -0700 > From: Tyler Boley <tyler(a)tylerboley.com> > To: colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > Subject: icc profile question.. > Message-ID: <51508F84.9070205(a)tylerboley.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I make CMYKOG profiles with i1publish. One problem that cropped up early > on was that some profiles showed up on the list in Photoshop and some > didn't. It doesn't matter a great deal, except that in order to > troubleshoot other problems, like O and G channel contents based on > profiler settings, I needed to be able to convert to them and inspect > channel contents. After a lot of messing around it turned out the Mas OS > will not register profiles over a certain size and make them available > to apps, this remains the case. So my build settings that effect size > make the difference.. two questions- > What drawback can there be to making the smallest A to B tables? I can't > soft proof with these profiles anyway. > What drawback can there be to excluding cxf data in the profile? I have > all data relevant to the build saved elsewhere. > Thanks, > Tyler

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icc profile question..
by Tyler Boley 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

I make CMYKOG profiles with i1publish. One problem that cropped up early on was that some profiles showed up on the list in Photoshop and some didn't. It doesn't matter a great deal, except that in order to troubleshoot other problems, like O and G channel contents based on profiler settings, I needed to be able to convert to them and inspect channel contents. After a lot of messing around it turned out the Mas OS will not register profiles over a certain size and make them available to apps, this remains the case. So my build settings that effect size make the difference.. two questions- What drawback can there be to making the smallest A to B tables? I can't soft proof with these profiles anyway. What drawback can there be to excluding cxf data in the profile? I have all data relevant to the build saved elsewhere. Thanks, Tyler

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European NEC MultiSync PA271W calibration question
by Paul Schilliger 18 Mar '13

18 Mar '13

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Re: The best plate reader for 20 micron staccato (Steve Miller)
by Dan Gillespie 14 Mar '13

14 Mar '13

Steve, I would highly recommend that you take a look at the Techkon SpectroPlate. This device has no moving parts, a very large screen and a 1-megapixel live view camera - which make it unique. It's certainly my plate reader of choice and it's attractively priced too (of course I'd be happy to provide you a quote). You don't mention what plates you are using/measuring, however, if you are using a low-contrast or process-free plate you would need the "All-Vision" model, otherwise you should be fine with the "Start" version. Let me know if I can help. Cheers! Dan Gillespie Director of Technical Services Color Management Group dan(a)colormanagement.com 717-475-9007 On Mar 14, 2013, at 3:00 PM, colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:58:08 -0500 > From: Steve Miller <SLMiller(a)norwood.com> > To: "''colorsync-users?lists.apple.com' List'" > <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> > Subject: The best plate reader for 20 micron staccato > Message-ID: <CD67404C.45E0%SLMiller(a)norwood.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Does anyone have a suggestion for a plate reader device that will provide > the most accurate consistent plate readings when measuring 20 micron > staccato screens? > We are using 20 micron staccato. Our current Xrite ccdot has worked well > for years on our AM screened plates but seems to have trouble with > staccato 20 micron. > The most inconsistent readings with the ccdot device are from our post > baked 20 micron staccato tone scales. The device is picking up "noise" on > the plate and giving false readings. > The most troublesome tone is the 10%. > > > -- > > Steve Miller > Color Management Specialist > > "The future's brite" > > BIC Advertising & Promotional Products > 1000 3rd Ave. SW > Sleepy Eye, MN 56085 > > Tel.: (1) 507 794 8203 > E-mail: slmiller(a)norwood.com > www.norwood.com / www.bicgraphic.com

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Is there an HDM CMM for MacOS or Windows7-8?
by Roger Breton 14 Mar '13

14 Mar '13

I notice some sensible differences between ACE / Adobe CMM and HDM CMM / LittleCMS CMM in Adobe InDesign. Like, I always end up with more magenta and yellow with ACE? Curious. Alternatively, would there be a LittleCMS CMM for MacOSX or Win7-8? LittleCMS and HDM CMM agree pretty well with each other. Best / Roger

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Monitor recommendations for a MBPr ?
by Paul Schilliger 13 Mar '13

13 Mar '13

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Monitor recommendations for a MBPr ?
by Paul Schilliger 13 Mar '13

13 Mar '13

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Monitor recommendations for a MBPr?
by Millers' Photography L.L.C. 12 Mar '13

12 Mar '13

I have been using the NEC PA271w for some time now. MBPro 17inch non-glare screen, 2008, 4, it worked perfectly. Today I have a pair of MBPro 8,3 17 inch non-glare screen with the thunderbolt. Works perfectly with both. You will want to use the mini display port to display port that will come with your NEC monitor, to you will have dual channels. Cheers David Millers' Photography L.L.C. digitalimaging(a)dnmillerphoto.com David B. Miller, Pharm. D. member 3809 Alabama Street Bellingham, WA 98226-4585 360 739 2826 Sent from my MacBook Pro 17 inch On Mar 12, 2013, at 12:00 PM, colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: > Send Colorsync-users mailing list submissions to > colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > colorsync-users-owner(a)lists.apple.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Colorsync-users digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Monitor recommendations for a MBPr? (Paul Schilliger) > 2. Re: Monitor recommendations for a MBPr? (Scott Martin) > 3. Re: Monitor recommendations for a MBPr? > (José Ángel Bueno García) > > > > From: Paul Schilliger <pschilliger(a)smile.ch> > Subject: Monitor recommendations for a MBPr? > Date: March 11, 2013 11:16:41 PM PDT > To: "colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com" <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> > Reply-To: Paul Schilliger <pschilliger(a)smile.ch> > > > > Hi, > I wish I can take from here, for nothing beats experimented users experience when it comes to choosing a monitor. Could you please suggest a good match for a MacBook Pro Retina 15", in the 27" or even 30" range? My budget is limited to 1,5K however. The monitor is to be used in a controlled light environment, mainly for Photoshop and LightRoom, but also InDesign and web browsing. So I'm concerned with text size as well. I've used a 24" iMac matte screen (1920x1200) till now, that was fine. Some newer features such as wide gamut capabilities, lower power and more real estate would be of course welcome. I would avoid a flickering LED monitor when set a low luminance levels however, but reading the specs, some newer LED monitors seem to have non flickering technology (Eizo), which could be good. But if that choice is safer and more eyes friendly, I would stay with CCFL back-lighting such as with the trusted PA271W. I have Spyder Elite 3 to 4 and bascICColor 4 (with Spectrocam). If I can skip a bundle calibration package, it would be that much that I could add to the monitor itself. Not sure however whether these two would allow for a proper hardware calibration. And passing from Snow to Mountain Lion might reserve some surprises as well… > Thanks in advance for your hints and suggestions! > > regards > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > From: Scott Martin <scott(a)on-sight.com> > Subject: Re: Monitor recommendations for a MBPr? > Date: March 12, 2013 6:54:21 AM PDT > To: "Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com List" <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> > > > Considering the benefits of all the MBP married tech (charger, speakers, camera, Thunderbolt, USB3, etc) I'd consider waiting for an updated fused glass LED Cinema Display and see what that looks like, and how it compares to the competition…. > > Scott Martin > artist - photographer > http://www.martinphoto.com/ > > > > On Mar 12, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Paul Schilliger <pschilliger(a)smile.ch> wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> I wish I can take from here, for nothing beats experimented users experience when it comes to choosing a monitor. Could you please suggest a good match for a MacBook Pro Retina 15", in the 27" or even 30" range? My budget is limited to 1,5K however. The monitor is to be used in a controlled light environment, mainly for Photoshop and LightRoom, but also InDesign and web browsing. So I'm concerned with text size as well. I've used a 24" iMac matte screen (1920x1200) till now, that was fine. Some newer features such as wide gamut capabilities, lower power and more real estate would be of course welcome. I would avoid a flickering LED monitor when set a low luminance levels however, but reading the specs, some newer LED monitors seem to have non flickering technology (Eizo), which could be good. But if that choice is safer and more eyes friendly, I would stay with CCFL back-lighting such as with the trusted PA271W. I have Spyder Elite 3 to 4 and bascICColor 4 (with Spectrocam). If I can skip a bundle calibration package, it would be that much that I could add to the monitor itself. Not sure however whether these two would allow for a proper hardware calibration. And passing from Snow to Mountain Lion might reserve some surprises as well… >> Thanks in advance for your hints and suggestions! >> >> regards >> Paul >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Colorsync-users mailing list (Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/scott%40on-sight.com >> >> This email sent to scott(a)on-sight.com > > > > > > > > > > From: José Ángel Bueno García <jbueno61(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Monitor recommendations for a MBPr? > Date: March 12, 2013 11:27:36 AM PDT > To: Scott Martin <scott(a)on-sight.com> > Cc: "Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com List" <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> > > > Hello Paul: ASUS PA246Q ProArt will do the work. > > > 2013/3/12 Scott Martin <scott(a)on-sight.com> > >> Considering the benefits of all the MBP married tech (charger, speakers, >> camera, Thunderbolt, USB3, etc) I'd consider waiting for an updated fused >> glass LED Cinema Display and see what that looks like, and how it compares >> to the competition…. >> >> Scott Martin >> artist - photographer >> http://www.martinphoto.com/ >> >> >> >> On Mar 12, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Paul Schilliger <pschilliger(a)smile.ch> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> I wish I can take from here, for nothing beats experimented users >> experience when it comes to choosing a monitor. Could you please suggest a >> good match for a MacBook Pro Retina 15", in the 27" or even 30" range? My >> budget is limited to 1,5K however. The monitor is to be used in a >> controlled light environment, mainly for Photoshop and LightRoom, but also >> InDesign and web browsing. So I'm concerned with text size as well. I've >> used a 24" iMac matte screen (1920x1200) till now, that was fine. Some >> newer features such as wide gamut capabilities, lower power and more real >> estate would be of course welcome. I would avoid a flickering LED monitor >> when set a low luminance levels however, but reading the specs, some newer >> LED monitors seem to have non flickering technology (Eizo), which could be >> good. But if that choice is safer and more eyes friendly, I would stay with >> CCFL back-lighting such as with the trusted PA271W. I have Spyder Elite 3 >> to 4 and bascICColor 4 (with Spectrocam). If I can skip a bundle >> calibration package, it would be that much that I could add to the monitor >> itself. Not sure however whether these two would allow for a proper >> hardware calibration. And passing from Snow to Mountain Lion might reserve >> some surprises as well… >>> Thanks in advance for your hints and suggestions! >>> >>> regards >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Colorsync-users mailing list (Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/scott%40on-sight.com >>> >>> This email sent to scott(a)on-sight.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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