March 2015 - colorsync-users

Re: How to use i1Profiler to measure a P2P25 target (Roger Breton)
by Don Hutcheson 10 Mar '15

10 Mar '15

Hi Roger, I think it’s pre-installed in the Measure Reference Chart workflows. Look for… P2P25X3 i1Pro 2.rwxf or P2P25X3_iSisXL.rwxf If you can’t find these, send me a private email and I’ll forward them to you. Don ........................................................ Don Hutcheson, President HutchColor, LLC Washington, NJ USA don(a)hutchcolor.com M: 908-500-0341 ........................................................ > On Mar 09, 2015, at 15:00 , Roger Breton wrote: > > I am probably wasting my time but I need to ask, in case, is there any way > to read a "Standard" P2P25Xa target with and i1Pro in i1Profiler? > > I've tried many things to no avail :( > > > > Best / Roger >

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How to use i1Profiler to measure a P2P25 target
by Roger Breton 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

I am probably wasting my time but I need to ask, in case, is there any way to read a "Standard" P2P25Xa target with and i1Pro in i1Profiler? I've tried many things to no avail :( Best / Roger

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by heidimaranto 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

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Profile 2nd screen on MBP Retina
by Martin Coker 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

Hi Everyone, After years of useful service I decided to upgrade my 2008 Macbook pro running Snow leopard to a latest MBP retina I am mostly happy apart from half of my Gretag / monaco / xrite apps no longer working but my maim gripe is when I try to calibrate my Panasonic 37" screen as 2nd screen! I have tried all the usual apps ( i1 proccess control -i1 match -efi colour profiler i1 profiler display ) all sulk on Yosemite. OK I thought lets go back to something simpler… so I ran up Argyll with the Display cal gui front and after updating to the latest version I got it to run . 20 minutes later when it went to save I got the message "unable to open Video LUT " So my question is where has the software put the scratch files and can I manually save the profile?? Thanks in advance Martin Coker Colour Technical Analyst Annodata colour management team -- *Martin J Coker* Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur * ( that looks better when written in latin)*

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SWOPv2 is dead
by Roger Breton 03 Mar '15

03 Mar '15

(Had to change the subject heading....) I remain convinced that Adobe would do everyone a service by adopting GRACoL as the new default CMYK color space in the next iteration of Photoshop. What would everyone say if the default RGB space was ColormatchRGB? Everyone would be up in arms, right? Well, it's the same thing with SWOPv2. As a straightjacket, you can't find tighter. We're 2015, people. The world has changed. Printers and service providers have become a whole lot more sophisticated with color management. More than ever, in fact. It's not about building the past, the past *is* behind us all. Let's stop living in the past and let's concentrate our efforts on building the future. Print is not dead. Users should not be constrained to convert ProPhoto into SWOPv2, right? Best / Roger

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Re: Silly question department, Display Media White Point
by John Lund 03 Mar '15

03 Mar '15

Mike wrote (in part): > my standard response to the Gracol business is, "When Adobe changes their defaults, so will I. …<snip>... -- That is exactly my point! Thanks, Mike. (Andrew, please note - it's not about getting rid of or changing SWOPv2 or any other profile, rather the fact that whatever Adobe sets as its default becomes 'de facto CMYK' for the rest of the world. Of course this doesn't have to impair people who know better how to manage color, but as print repro & the associated skill sets become increasingly devalued & scarce, too many folks think CMYK *is* SWOP - whether or not they have any idea what SWOP represents.) > Until then, if you have a client who sent you a file in CMYK, you can bet they had no idea what color space they were in, so it was SWOP, and SWOP is how you should set the RIP to expect CMYK." -- I agree completely. Seems like the only common-sense response to the current situation. > "Convert to SWOP"? > > That I'm just going to have to take your word for, because all I can say is that I work exclusively with large and grand format printers, have for some 9 years now, and have never walked into a client's shop that was doing that. -- Great, again sensible. I was referring more to the client who supplies files for output, asks the print vendor what color space is recommended and is answered with "well, our RIP expects SWOP" - so the client sends files converted accordingly. I'll refrain from describing RIP operators who don't seem aware that both an input source profile and actual print output profile are part of the system, much less what the difference between them might be, or when & where color space conversions occur… Thanks for your input. John

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best synthetic cmyk edit space
by edward taffel 02 Mar '15

02 Mar '15

ok—i wish to edit synthetic cmyk; i expect to print on quality stock—let’s say mohawk superfine white eggshell; as yet, i know not which press to target, but i should like to achieve excellent results: which space should i be in? one offering best chance for ripping into the widest possible gamut range of lithographic presses? tia & best, edward

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K generation in GRACoL2006_Coated1v2
by Martin Orpen 02 Mar '15

02 Mar '15

Further to my comments about GRACoL2006_Coated1v2 profile turning blue to black. Here’s a chart showing K percentages from RGB values of 30, 50 & 70. The GRACoL profile produces way too much black... -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd

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RE: Silly question department, Display Media White Point
by John Lund 01 Mar '15

01 Mar '15

So why should it be acceptable that this is still the *default* CMYK space for Photoshop (North America installs)? Since it continues in Adobe products, it is also the default for RIP vendors, printing houses that run inkjet/solvent printers, and all sorts of places that output on devices that bear almost no relation to "SWOP". OK, I'll drop it now... ;-) John On Feb 25, 2015, at 12:00 PM, colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:49:00 -0500 > From: Roger Breton <graxx(a)videotron.ca> > To: "'ColorSync'" <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> > Subject: RE: Silly question department, Display Media White Point > Message-ID: <02f101d05134$1a035680$4e0a0380$(a)videotron.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Well, if they are running a "SWOP" press these days, under the G7 method, with SWOP2013-compliant inks colorimetry, the SWOPV2 "specification" isn't worth much anymore, Andrew?

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CxF3 to CGATS
by Atelje Antolin OFFICE (Der) 01 Mar '15

01 Mar '15

Hello list, In what way could be Pantone+ Solid Coated-V2 imported into i1Share and PMColorPicker, Mac OS 10.6.8 ? Many thanks for any suggestion! P.S. I can save CxFv3 with Pantone Color Manager (Mac OS 10.6.8). Tried conversion from CxFv3 to CxFv1 on Windows XP with free utility CxF3_to_CGATS_Spectral_Data_v1.5, but but the expected conversion fails. Dusan Antolin www.atelje.si

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