November 2016 - colorsync-users

profiling back-printed plexiglass?
by Randy Norian 12 Dec '16

12 Dec '16

Good afternoon! It’s quite likely that this has been covered before, however, I have to ask. We are attempting to print high quality images on the back face of clear plexiglass, with a white ink layer behind the image. The print engine in question is a Rastek H625 (by EFI) UV-cured inkjet. While I can color manage paper prints with this device, the backside-plexiglass printing has me stymied. The images are extremely bright and overly-contrasty, to the point of being unacceptable, especially as companion pieces to other latex work we’re doing. I thought I’d just characterize the output on the plexiglass, however my ES-2000 won’t read the swatches through the plexiglass, for whatever reason — it simply faults out. I’m using EFI color profiler suite 4.6. Have any of you faced the same issue? Any advice on how to go about color managing this sort of printing? I know I have to figure out how to read these swatches, but beyond that, are there any caveats for working with "back side of glass” printing? Many thanks- Randy Norian

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In-browser monitor profiling?
by Jeff Nova 07 Dec '16

07 Dec '16

Remember how e-Color used to permit users to calibrate and profile their monitors in-browser, and stored the result in its extension? Well, that company is no more, and the tech seems to have been laid to rest. Is there any solution for color management on the web that is on the monitor side? I know color management has grown incredibly with browser support and OS support - only Chrome on Android and Android specifically are still not color managed - but that doesn't mean we can count on a good monitor profile. Anyone know of a solution? Best, Jeff -- Jeff NovaChief Executive OfficerColorhythm jnova(a)colorhythm.comMain: +1 415-399-9921Mobile: +1 510-710-9590Fax: +1 415-399-9928 1015 Battery Street, Suite CSan Francisco CA 94111http://colorhythm.com This electronic mail and the documents accompanying it are considered trade secret, confidential and/or proprietary by Colorhythm LLC. This information is intended for use by the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited.

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XRite Device Services update fail
by Scott Martin 29 Nov '16

29 Nov '16

FYI I have a brand new Windows10 machine and I installed i1Profiler 1.6.3 with XRD 2.3.9.4 last week and have used several i1Pro2 devices with it without problem. The auto update to i1Profiler 1.6.7 with XRD 2.4.0.1 killed device connectivity. The device manager doesn’t like the driver. Uninstalling XRD and reinstalling i1Profiler 1.6.3 with XRD 2.3.9.4 fixes it. Both old and new versions work great on the Mac... Scott Martin

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Re: DTP94 and new Mac OS compatibility3.
by Axel Robert 23 Nov '16

23 Nov '16

Hello Péter, basICColor prepared A framework which worked well for Mavericks. This latter is unfortunately unable to be loaded under Mac OS El Capitan. It systematically crashes the software itself. Thank you anyway for your answer. Hello Florian, I didn’t know DisplayCAL was able to drive a DTP94. However as far as I know your software is made to calibrate display and not to adjust light booth, right? Regards, Axel On 22/11/2016 21:00, "colorsync-users-bounces+axel.robert=ubisoft.com(a)lists.apple.com on behalf of colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com" <colorsync-users-bounces+axel.robert=ubisoft.com(a)lists.apple.com on behalf of colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com> wrote: Send Colorsync-users mailing list submissions to colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com You can reach the person managing the list at colorsync-users-owner(a)lists.apple.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Colorsync-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: DTP94 and new Mac OS compatibility. (Péter Nagy) 2. Re: DT94 and new Mac OS compatibility. (Florian Höch) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:26:03 +0100 From: Péter Nagy <peter(a)colorcom.hu> To: colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: DTP94 and new Mac OS compatibility. Message-ID: <1479759963685346046(a)colorcom.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Axel, basiccolor 5 will calibrate a display using the DTP94. I'm not sure, whether it has an ambient light measurement function. http://www.basiccolor.de/basiccolor-display-5-en/ Kind regards, Péter Nagy Colorcom MediaBudapest, Hungary On Mon, 11/21/2016 09:00 PM, colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: > Send Colorsync-users mailing list submissions to > colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > colorsync-users-owner(a)lists.apple.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Colorsync-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. DT94 and new Mac OS compatibility. (Axel Robert) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:21:23 +0000 > From: Axel Robert <axel.robert(a)ubisoft.com> > To: "colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com" > <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> > Subject: DT94 and new Mac OS compatibility. > Message-ID: <2147E250-F64A-42CC-ADF2-A45AEB17ACF6(a)ubisoft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear ColorSyncers, > > I would like to know if anybody knows a current software available to drive the venerable DT94 colorimeter on Mac OS (El Capitan)? > > Unless to be able to obtain the proper driver? > > The goal is to adjust a light booth. > > Thank you. > Axel > > > Axel Robert | Prepress Manager > Manufacturing | Ubisoft Entertainment > 28, rue Armand Carrel | 93100 Montreuil | France > Tel: +33(0)1 48 18 52 03 | Skype: axelprepress > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Colorsync-users mailing list > Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users > > End of Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 13, Issue 162 > ************************************************ > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 22:07:39 +0100 From: Florian Höch <lists+colorsync-users(a)hoech.org> To: colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: DT94 and new Mac OS compatibility. Message-ID: <1b9dee8b-a6f8-31fb-f814-5146dc786954(a)hoech.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, DisplayCAL (a GUI for Argyll CMS) runs on Mac OS X. It can calibrate & profile displays, measure ambient as well as help adjusting a monitor to a light booth visually. Am 21.11.2016 um 16:21 schrieb Axel Robert: > Dear ColorSyncers, > > I would like to know if anybody knows a current software available to > drive the venerable DT94 colorimeter on Mac OS (El Capitan)? > > Unless to be able to obtain the proper driver? > > The goal is to adjust a light booth. > > Thank you. Axel -- Florian Höch http://displaycal.net/ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Colorsync-users mailing list Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users End of Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 13, Issue 163 ************************************************

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DT94 and new Mac OS compatibility.
by Axel Robert 21 Nov '16

21 Nov '16

Dear ColorSyncers, I would like to know if anybody knows a current software available to drive the venerable DT94 colorimeter on Mac OS (El Capitan)? Unless to be able to obtain the proper driver? The goal is to adjust a light booth. Thank you. Axel Axel Robert | Prepress Manager Manufacturing | Ubisoft Entertainment 28, rue Armand Carrel | 93100 Montreuil | France Tel: +33(0)1 48 18 52 03 | Skype: axelprepress

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Re: DTP94 and new Mac OS compatibility.
by Péter Nagy 21 Nov '16

21 Nov '16

Hi Axel, basiccolor 5 will calibrate a display using the DTP94. I'm not sure, whether it has an ambient light measurement function. http://www.basiccolor.de/basiccolor-display-5-en/ Kind regards, Péter Nagy Colorcom MediaBudapest, Hungary On Mon, 11/21/2016 09:00 PM, colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: > Send Colorsync-users mailing list submissions to > colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > colorsync-users-owner(a)lists.apple.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Colorsync-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. DT94 and new Mac OS compatibility. (Axel Robert) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:21:23 +0000 > From: Axel Robert <axel.robert(a)ubisoft.com> > To: "colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com" > <colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com> > Subject: DT94 and new Mac OS compatibility. > Message-ID: <2147E250-F64A-42CC-ADF2-A45AEB17ACF6(a)ubisoft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear ColorSyncers, > > I would like to know if anybody knows a current software available to drive the venerable DT94 colorimeter on Mac OS (El Capitan)? > > Unless to be able to obtain the proper driver? > > The goal is to adjust a light booth. > > Thank you. > Axel > > > Axel Robert | Prepress Manager > Manufacturing | Ubisoft Entertainment > 28, rue Armand Carrel | 93100 Montreuil | France > Tel: +33(0)1 48 18 52 03 | Skype: axelprepress > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Colorsync-users mailing list > Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users > > End of Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 13, Issue 162 > ************************************************ >

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Photo-Research PR-704 spectroradiometer
by Roger Breton 15 Nov '16

15 Nov '16

Looking for software installation disks for this old instrument. The computer I had that was hosting the installed software went bust. Naturally, I had no backup :( / Roger www.graxx.ca

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Re: i1 Profiler Scanner module, clipping white
by tyler boley 14 Nov '16

14 Nov '16

isn't the i1profiler scanner module descended from Monaco Profiler? I recall those scanner profiles clipped whites depending on rendering intent when converting to working space.

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Re: i1 Profiler Scanner module, clipping white
by Barry Rudick 11 Nov '16

11 Nov '16

Martin replies: > Yes. But I'd blame the scanner for this, not the profiling software :-) > > I tried to tame an Epson 10000XL A3 scanner when we were having problems with our Fuji Lanovia. > > The Epson software made it really difficult to lock the scanner settings down — meaning that each scanning session would yield different results for the same chart even when you’d made every effort to keep the settings locked and consistent. Understood. We have replaced our very old 10000XL with the 11000XL. Scanning with “No Color Correction” seems very stable. White patch on Colorchecker is around 240, 241 with no profile of course. When using the “Colorsync” configuration in EpsonScan it is necessary to open the Histogram panel and zero out the auto corrections that the software presents. Annoying. Thanks for the response. Cheers, Barry Rudick Aker Imaging

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Fwd: Re: i1 Profiler Scanner module, clipping white
by Ernst Dinkla 11 Nov '16

11 Nov '16

Vuescan supports the 10000XL and much more scanner models. Works in 3 OS environments. It allows a RAW DNG export (disguised Tiff) without any influence on the image. Could be a good start for this instead of using the Epson software. Add a whiter patch than the original to the scan, for example a stack of Teflon tape. Any unknown OBA content in the original may still bring its white above that level though, depending on the scanner's light source. RAW profile based on Colorchecker or profiling after the RAW stage Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm July 2016 update, 700+ inkjet media white spectral plots On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:18 AM, Martin Orpen <martin(a)idea-digital.com> wrote: > > > On 9 Nov 2016, at 20:44, Barry Rudick <barryr(a)azphoto.com> wrote: > > > > Anyone experience this? > > > Yes. But I'd blame the scanner for this, not the profiling software :-) > > I tried to tame an Epson 10000XL A3 scanner when we were having problems > with our Fuji Lanovia. > > The Epson software made it really difficult to lock the scanner settings > down — meaning that each scanning session would yield different results for > the same chart even when you’d made every effort to keep the settings > locked and consistent. > > I use custom made charts on the print material we were scanning — mostly > Kodak Endura, Fuji Gloss and Fuji Super Gloss — but we’d still get variable > results and clipping too. > > The profiles were made in Profilemaker as, unlike i1Profiler, you have the > flexibility to create your own custom chart designs. > > I reckoned that the variation was due to slackness in the Epson’s internal > pre-scan white point calibration? > > So, providing the scan you used to create the profile didn’t clip the > white, manually editing the production scans prior to applying the profile > to ensure their white doesn’t clip should give you reasonable results. > > -- > Martin Orpen > Idea Digital Imaging Ltd > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Colorsync-users mailing list (Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/colorsync-users/erns > t.dinkla%40gmail.com > > This email sent to ernst.dinkla(a)gmail.com >

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