Is it just me that thinks that FOGRA51 produces inferior separations and unacceptable skin colour? Just like FOGRA52 we get separations that lack yellow when we need MORE yellow to create an acceptable skin colour. Who makes the decisions about colour reproduction for these standards? Have they proofed and printed the BVDM Roman 16 images with the Green and Blue backgrounds? Did they honestly believe that skin the colour of boiled ham was acceptable? This causes a lot of problems in pre-press workflows because clients supplying Photoshop CMYK end up with terrible looking images and any that we edit using commercial separation software (that corrects the yellow deficiency) look nothing like the images in the rest of the job. This wasn’t the case with FOGRA39. The new standards are producing substandard results :( -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd