How many remember the halcyon days of big color guy parties, such as the Gretag NDA intro of the i1 in Orlando? It would be interesting to find how many of that gang stayed in the biz through Covid. Conjecture and chatter are that we are down to perhaps 10%. There are fewer evolving technologies and ink sets than in the 1997-2007 decade. That equates to fewer novel gigs. Because new guys probably don’t have drum scanner experience, color breaks may not be in their tool box. Several manufacturers have commented on those observations. Jon Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2021, at 6:35 AM, Refik Telhan via colorsync-users <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com> wrote:
Hi Edmund,
The printing industry is very much alive and growing in all of its analog and digital forms. However some issues related with color managing the printing process have become controversial. Discussing them in their full width requires us to leave our comfort zones. Not many are ready to do so.
Calibrating high contrast wide gamut HDR displays and projectors is another big can of worms. The narrowband primary displays and projectors of the day cause a high level of “observer metamerism” to such a degree that no two observers standing side by side see the color in the same way. Especially whites and grays range between greenish and pinkish.
Refik Telhan
Light and Color Management Consultant
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From: edmund ronald via colorsync-users <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>
Reply-To: edmund ronald <edmundronald@gmail.com>
Date: 3 November 2021 Wednesday 13:14
To: Nick Dunmur <info@nickdunmur.com>
Cc: Colorsync List <colorsync-users@lists.apple.com>
Subject: Re: just testing, this list seems deceased?
when i was involved with the ICC, they seemed focused on their historical
origins of print endproduct and screen as preview.
I think the action in color management may have moved to the various moving
picture technical committees, the cinema guys are very serious about using
calibrated screens for grading and ensuring viewers get the best experience
in theaters, and there's a whole community of "home theater" people who
calibrate their super large TVs and projectors with high end
spetroradiometers.
Edmund
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 10:39 AM Nick Dunmur via colorsync-users <
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> On Wed Nov 03 2021 09:03:02, edmund ronald via colorsync-users arranged
> some pixels to say…
>
> > Strange how the traffic dwindled away.
>
>
> I think everyone’s still here (hello to all, and Neil for poking the stick
> in :-) !)… perhaps colour management issues are less of a ’thing’ than they
> used to be? I’m still using the tools and workflows I have been for some
> time, but make a lot less work for print these days (90% of commissioned
> work is screen-use only, apart from personal work) and people seem
> generally happy viewing content on high-contrast, over-saturated screens.
> It’s a bit like the whole social media thing - we’re (collectively, I mean,
> not here, of course) losing (or have already lost) the ability to
> appreciate nuance and subtlety across a range of experiences.
>
> kind regards
>
> Nick
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