Hi Been following this thread with interest. So a few observations: 1) On making a profile from the Fogra 52 dataset, using ColorLogics ColorAnt and CoPra4 software, reducing the TAC to 260% and applling heavy GCR I get what seems to be a usable profile when tested using the stadard test images, Grainer Rainbow, etc. 2) However it is noticable when separating RGB B/W images that the CMY separations are not neutral, there are blue /black as reported by Martin. If these are printed correctly would this be an issue? Hope not! The yellow separation, as reported by Martin is a little odd. 3) Soft proofing on screen seems to be a issue with M1 based profile with higher OBA¹s. I guess as the screen cannot show the OBA as the human eye would see then, is shows the paper white, say -b10, as very blue. Not sure this can be easier corrected? 4) Is Is there spectral data for Fogra52 as there is for 51? Regards Paul Sherfield Please note my mobile is now my main contact number: Mobile: + 44 7899 906385 http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk http://twitter.com/#!/missinghorse Member - UK TC130 Technical Advisory Group (ISO 12647 Printing Standards) UK Expert: ISO TC130/Working Group 13 on certification of printing standards Chair BPIF Colour Quality Scheme Certification Steering Group This email and any attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any disclosure, copying or other distribution is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete all copies from your system. Email may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment. We do not accept liability for any such corruption, interception or amendment or the consequences thereof. We do not accept liability for any action or inaction by the recipient as a result of advice or information contained within this email. -